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Stephen Gennarelli
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Steve, respectfully I think you were too hard on SBG.
Why was he inducted in the initial Hall of Fame class ? He was one of the greatest heels of all time.
Yes, his wrestling was sketchy at best..but so was The Sheik...another first time HOF'er.
But I do agree, Pedro Morales deserves to be in..

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He was a source from the early years of the Observer & Dave was a body builder. Everyone has to be a mark for something. For Dave it was Billy Graham & Ric Flair. (That's Ok. I'm a Destroyer fan boy.)

Yeah.. He drew as WWF champ but he was working with the top babyfaces in the world: Sammartino, Mil Mascaras, Dusty Rhodes, Peter Maivia, & Bob Backlund. The NY fans hadn't had a heel champion for any length of time since 1963 (14 years). It was a face promotion & the fans probably felt there could be a title change on every show. He was a cool heel & NY hadn't seen one since Rogers.

He raged on the WWE when he could make money off of it....and he loved Vince when he was getting his Doctor bills paid. And that went back & forth a bunch of times....depending on the money.

I have a lot of reasons to think he wasn't a HOF'er. But he got in without a vote or a argument.

I've been around him, and it's hard to dislike him...but he's not my hero...and I don't trust his character.

Steve I'll say no more. I don't want to upset people.---Steve Yohe

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I have wondered had the first (and to a lesser extent second) WON Hall of Fame class was in the hands of voters which inductees wouldn't have gotten in and also who may have been voted in.
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No apology necessary, Steve. If it help Morales get in, I'm fine with it.
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So this was the final result for 2016:

2016 HALL OF FAME BALLOTING RESULTS
 
Votes needed for induction into the Hall of Fame: U.S. and Canada modern 213; U.S. and Canada historical 170; Japan 96; Mexico 81; Rest of the World 81

Performer----Votes---PCT----2015

Bryan Danielson ---- 282 ---- 80% ---- 54%
Gene Okerlund ---- 237 ---- 67% --- 58%
Sting --- 234 --- 66% --- 58%

Cien Caras --- 78 --- 58% --- 54%
Villano --- 76 --- 56% --- 54%
Pedro Morales ---- 153 --- 54% ---- NC
Blue Panther --- 68 --- 50% --- 40%
Mike & Ben Sharpe --- 79 --- 50% --- 54%
Hayabusa --- 78 --- 49% --- NC
Gary Hart ---- 174 --- 49% --- 49%
Bill Apter --- 168 ---- 48% --- 52%
Los Misioneros de la Muerte ---- 64 ---- 47% ---- 56%
Jerry Jarrett ---- 166 ---- 47% ----- 48%
Jimmy Hart ---- 162 ---- 46% ---- 36%
Jun Akiyama ----- 72 ---- 45% ---- 33%
Big Daddy ---- 60 ---- 45% ---- 41%
Howard Finkel ---- 157 ---- 44% ---- 42%
Karloff Lagarde ---- 56 ---- 42% ---- 41%
Lord James Blears ---- 56 ---- 42% ---NC
Jim Crockett Sr ---- 116 ---- 41% ---- 57%
Cima ---- 64 ---- 40% ---- 23%
Edge ---- 141 ---- 40% ---- 44%
Johnny (Mr Wrestling II) Walker ---- 112 ---- 40% ---- 36%
Jackie Pallo ---- 53 ---- 40% ---- 40%
L.A. Park ---- 52 ---- 39% ---- 29%
Stanley Weston ---- 109 ---- 39% ---- 44%
Ricki Starr ---- 48 ---- 38% ---- 39%
Volk Han ---- 61 ---- 38% ---- 52%
Sgt Slaughter ---- 129 ---- 37% ---- 23%
Minoru Suzuki ---- 58 ---- 37% ---- 36%
Johnny Saint ---- 49 ---- 37% ---- 35%
Enrique Torres ---- 102 ---- 36% ---- 37%
Huracan Ramirez ---- 49 ---- 36% ---- 31%
Red Bastien ---- 99 ---- 35% ---- 35%
Mark Lewin ---- 95 ---- 34% ---- 37%
Otto Wanz ---- 45 ---- 34% ---- 29%
June Byers ---- 94 ---- 33% ---- 26%
Curt Hennig ---- 115 ---- 33% ---- 30%
Junkyard Dog ---- 114 ---- 32% ---- 29%
Rollerball Mark Rocco ---- 43 ---- 32% ---- 42%
Spyros Arion ---- 43 ---- 32% ---- 15%
Don Owen ---- 112 ---- 32% ---- 33%
Bearcat Wright ---- 86 ----- 31% ---- NC
Yoshiaki Fujiwara ---- 48 ---- 30% ---- NC
Mistico/Caristico ---- 40 ---- 30% ---- NC
Los Brazos ---- 39 ---- 29% ---- 33%
Larry Matysik ---- 81 ---- 29% ---- 26%
Akira Taue ---- 45 ---- 28% ---- 26%
Ultimo Guerrero ---- 38 ---- 28% ---- 21%
Dr Wagner Jr ---- 37 ---- 27% ---- 27%
Blackjack Mulligan ---- 73 ---- 26% ---- NC
Kiyoshi Tamura ---- 38 ---- 24% ---- 22%
Von Brauners ---- 61 ---- 22% ---- 22%
Johnny Barend ---- 30 ---- 22% ---- 11%
George Scott ---- 73 ---- 21% ---- 17%
Yuji Nagata ---- 34 ---- 21% ---- 23%
Tim “Mr Wrestling” Woods ---- 60 ---- 21% ---- 23%
Killer Karl Kox ---- 59 ---- 21% ----- 33%
Archie “The Stomper” Gouldie ---- 58 ---- 21% ---- NC
Jim Crockett Jr ---- 73 ---- 21% ---- 20%
Cowboy Bob Ellis ---- 55 ---- 20% ----24%
Rocky Johnson ---- 55 ---- 20% ---- 16%
C.M. Punk ----70 ---- 20% ---- 22%
Ultimate Warrior ---- 66 ---- 19% --- 13%
Kendo Nagasaki ---- 25 ---- 19% ---- 20%
Dave Brown ---- 54 ---- 18% ---- 18%
Billy Joyce ---- 24 ---- 18% ---- 25%
Randy Orton ---- 59 ---- 17% ---- 15%
John Tolos ---- 47 ---- 17% ---- 25%
Tenzan & Kojima ---- 25 ---- 16% ---- 12%
Pepper Gomez ---- 43 ---- 15% ---- 16%
Don Fargo ---- 37 ---- 13% ---- NC
Kerry Von Erich ---- 40 ---- 13% ---- NC
Dick Hutton ---- 36 ---- 13% ---- 15%
Vampiro ---- 18 --- 13% ---- 11%
Steve Rickard ---- 16 ---- 12 % ---- NC
Ed Francis ---- 16 ---- 12% ---- NC
Jim Breaks ---- 15 ---- 11% ---- 16%
Horst Hoffman ---- 15 ---- 11% ---- 24%
Seiji Sakaguchi ---- 16 ---- 10% --- NC
Chyna ---- 36 ---- 10%---- NC

Less than 10% of the votes from the region and dropped from next year’s ballot: Brute Bernard & Skull Murphy, Domenic DeNucci, Kinji Shibuya, Ron Wright, George Gordienko, Masahiko Kimura, Fishman, Mario Milano 

Dropped from next year’s ballot due to the 15 year/50% rule: Seiji Sakaguchi, Volk Han 

Added to the ballot next year: A.J. Styles, Sputnik Monroe, Trish Stratus, Kota Ibushi, Bill Goldberg, Rick Martel, Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson w/J.J. Dillon 

Will be dropped after next year if not inducted or 50%: Cien Caras, Blue Panther, Villano III, Don Owen, Tim “Mr. Wrestling” Woods, Curt Hennig

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Stephen Gennarelli
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What determines new names getting added to the ballet ?
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It's too bad Fishman is getting dropped.

I typed up some major cards that he headlined for Dave Meltzer this past week due to his passing. Also talked with Konnan and he told me some great stories and even shared how he was viewed by peers in Mexico.

Just looking through his box office on top, and he was a major attraction. His feud with and tag team with Perro Aguayo was Hall of Fame level.

I'm writing a piece for the English Lucha fanzine, Rudo Can't Fail. It's a piece looking at Fishman's life. And he's got as strong case or stronger than most.

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They should call that site "Rudos can't Fall", so it could play off "White Guys Can't Jump".--Yohe
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Dave picks who goes on. People can suggest names & if he see the point, he'll put them on.--Yohe
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