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The Masked Knight
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In the old days, sometimes you would see in wrestling a beatdown, where some nefarious heel gets his ass whipped by every face in the back. Because he had it coming.

We are seeing this in real life this weekend, with the royal beat down of one of Hollywood's most powerful studio bosses, Harvey Weinstein-- co-founder of Miramax and the Weinstein Group.

The NYTimes and New Yorker magazine have done detailed articles ripping him apart for being a vicious womanizer. If all these allegations are true, Weinstein makes Bill Cosby look like a boy scout!

Top women stars like Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Ashley Judd, Rose McGowan, Heather Graham, Rossana Arquette and a whole host of others are now coming out with their own 'casting couch' horror stories. Gwyneth Paltrow says Weinstein tried to come on to her as quid quo pro for a part, and she told then bf Brad Pitt how humiliated she was. Says Pitt threatened to kill Weinstein. Pitt confirmed the story. Apparently a lot of other women were bought off by Weinstein's lawyers. Even gay braodway star Nathan Lane says Weinstein physically assaulted him at a Hillary Clinton fundraiser

Now Weinstein has in the last two days been fired by his studio, disowned by his brother, divorced by his wife (who now says she doesn't want their kids near him), called a monster and other names by A list actors like Meryl Streep, Judi Dench and Nicole Kidman. His original lawyers and publicists have quit.

Weinstein says his brother Bob Weinstein, who cofounded his studios with him, turned on him and this is his brother's vendetta. Someday this is going to be its own movie. This is brutal.

Harvey Weinstein will be lucky if he's left with the clothes on his back. He thought he was being just like any other old school studio boss. But this isn't the 1940s or 50's. These woman are out for blood. HIS blood!

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And I admit I'm rather enjoying this because I'm still annoyed over the 1999 Oscars, where Weinstein relentlessly bought off voters (reportedly) to make sure his "Shakespeare in Love" won best picture over Steven Spielberg's far more deserving "Saving Private Ryan" Spielberg was robbed. He must thus be enjoying watching this takedown too

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The New Yorker takedown out today on Weinstein. Its brutal:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories

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Poor Judi Dench.


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The most disgusting part of this, even more disgusting than Weinstein's deplorable behavior, is the executives in TV/print that knowingly kept this covered up for years. It came out today that NBC had this story 4 years ago, with people willing to go on the record, and scrapped it. The Times had it a couple years back, but didn't want to lose out on those movie advertising dollars.

There's a special place somewhere for Harvey Weinstein, and if there is any justice, an equally special place for his enablers.

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As bad as he is, there are worse.

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Rose McGowan has called Ben Affleck a liar for claiming he was unaware of Weinstein's behavior. We might see more of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/movies/rose-mcgowan-ben-affleck-matt-damon-weinstein.html


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“‘GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT’ you said that to my face,” Ms. McGowan wrote in the tweet. “The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.”

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quote:
Originally posted by bcthomas:
The most disgusting part of this, even more disgusting than Weinstein's deplorable behavior, is the executives in TV/print that knowingly kept this covered up for years. It came out today that NBC had this story 4 years ago, with people willing to go on the record, and scrapped it. The Times had it a couple years back, but didn't want to lose out on those movie advertising dollars.

There's a special place somewhere for Harvey Weinstein, and if there is any justice, an equally special place for his enablers.

Weinstein is falling on his sword for all the other predators in the industry. I’m just a production assistant in NY and heard countless stories from women and some men about abuse. And not just from actors but other p.a.’s and crew members. And not from guys in Weinstein’s position but literally every facet of that industry. And I’m sure, like Weezie wrote, he and Crimson Mask have heard even worse.

Hell, you ask any woman anywhere they’ll have dozens of their own stories.

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It's not new. Judy Garland and Shirley Temple were top stars for their studios as early teens in the 30's If accounts in their various bios are true they were both sexually abused by studio bosses. It was the bosses who got Garland onto booze and drugs when she was young.

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If you haven't watched this it's an eye opener that's for sure



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Cara Dekavigne has come forward

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cara-delevingne-comes-forward-sexual-harassment-claims-against-harvey-weinstein-n809881

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On the other hand, Lindsay Lohan is defending Weinstein

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/11/stand-up-for-harvey-weinstein-lindsay-lohan-reportedly-defends-mogul-in-now-deleted-post.html

Successful working actresses attack studio boss. Desperate out of work former star looking for jobs defends him you get the picture. I'm sure Lohan would give Weinstein a massage or watch him take a shower for a good part in his next movie,..

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quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Knight:
On the other hand, Lindsay Lohan is defending Weinstein

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/11/stand-up-for-harvey-weinstein-lindsay-lohan-reportedly-defends-mogul-in-now-deleted-post.html

Successful working actresses attack studio boss. Desperate out of work former star looking for jobs defends him you get the picture. I'm sure Lohan would give Weinstein a massage or watch him take a shower for a good part in his next movie,..

I'd consider the source of that statement. Lohan has been a has-been most of her life now and likely was saying to the other bad actors "hey, boys, I can keep kayfabe."
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The first thing I noticed when I read the story, was who wrote it. A guy who has a little experience being around a creepy perv filmmaker.

Ronan Farrow.

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Weinstein has checked into rehab

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quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Knight:
Weinstein has checked into rehab

The same one in France that has been treating Roman Polanski?

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Ben Affleck seems to be taking some collateral damage from this.
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Ben and his brother have acted pretty sleazily on a number of occasions. They deserve it.

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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
Rose McGowan has called Ben Affleck a liar for claiming he was unaware of Weinstein's behavior. We might see more of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/movies/rose-mcgowan-ben-affleck-matt-damon-weinstein.html


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“‘GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT’ you said that to my face,” Ms. McGowan wrote in the tweet. “The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.”

And Twitter responded in kind by suspending her ass.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-actress-rose-mcgowan-085342788.html

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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
Ben Affleck seems to be taking some collateral damage from this.

Good. I'm sure his perversion was the worst kept secret in Hollywood. Weinstein was enabled by the likes of Affleck and the now wealthy actresses who were harassed in their early years. Okay, I get it, a young Paltrow and Jolie might be too intimidated to report him. Once they became established and had a net worth of over 100 million, why couldn't they have reported their stories? I don't want to send this to poli forum, but I get a kick out of these celebrities that claim to be pro female, but turned a blind eye to this reprehensible pervert.

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Now James Van Der Beek says he was sexually harassed on the set of Dawson's Creek by one of the male producers. Expanding this beyond Weinstein to the point that there are a whole lot of pervs in powerful positions in the movie and TV business

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is it different that the head of Fox News and his actions? IMO, no, they are both worthy of criminal charges..

been going on forever, whenever people have the power over others, some will use it in disgusting manners..

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Yea while it's disgusting it's not surprising. I did get stuck seeing some of the coverage on Fox about this and did find their spin on it interesting given all the issues their network has had in that area.

Seems like when money and power are involved there is always some creep there looking to take advantage.

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quote:
Originally posted by Armageddon_T_Thunderbird:
And Twitter responded in kind by suspending her ass.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-actress-rose-mcgowan-085342788.html

Forgive me if I’m wrong but the way you wrote your comment, it reads like you think she’s the problem.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Armageddon_T_Thunderbird:
And Twitter responded in kind by suspending her ass.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-actress-rose-mcgowan-085342788.html

Forgive me if I’m wrong but the way you wrote your comment, it reads like you think she’s the problem.
No no not at all. That's not what I meant. It was supposed to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" type post.

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Amazon Studios head suspended after sexual harassment claim.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/business/media/amazon-roy-price-isa-dick-hackett.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Armageddon_T_Thunderbird:
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Originally posted by Handsome Rob from LA:
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Originally posted by Armageddon_T_Thunderbird:
And Twitter responded in kind by suspending her ass.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-suspends-actress-rose-mcgowan-085342788.html

Forgive me if I’m wrong but the way you wrote your comment, it reads like you think she’s the problem.
No no not at all. That's not what I meant. It was supposed to be a "no good deed goes unpunished" type post.
My apologizes.

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from Vareity.com:

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Rose McGowan returned to Twitter after a 12-hour temporary suspension of her account with claims that Harvey Weinstein raped her, clarifying previous statements that she had been sexually assaulted by an unnamed studio head.
McGowan, who had previously been suspended because, according to Twitter, “one of her Tweets included a private phone number,” which violates of the platform’s Terms of Service, said in a series of five tweets directed to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos that Weinstein “raped” her. “Over & over I said it,” she wrote. “He said it hadn’t been proven. I said I was the proof.”

this is about to get a lot worse, the **** is hitting the fan

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“@jeffbezos I am calling on you to stop funding rapists, alleged pedo[philes] and sexual harassers,” McGowan said in a Twitter message directed to the Amazon billionaire “I love @amazon but there is rot in Hollywood,” McGowan wrote, just hours after Twitter lifted a 12-hour suspension that temporarily blocked the actress from posting.

In a separate development on Thursday, Amazon I suspended Roy Price, the head of its studios, after “Man in the High Castle” producer Isa Hackett told the Hollywood Reporter that he had repeatedly propositioned her and made lewd comments

you know this hasn't been a good year at the box office for movies and this isn't going to help. I know they are about to kick Harvey Weinstein out of the Academy but that isn't going to solve this...huge PR problem for the whole industry.

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Van Der Beek is interesting, because there's been allegations for years about people in the industry preying on kids. I don't know how serious people took Corey Feldman's allegations about this a few years ago, because he's so bizarre, but I tend to think it's probably true.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shaving Weezie Jefferson:
As bad as he is, there are worse.

After reading about the two Coreys, I'm sure this creep is rather mild.

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I know personally how far Corey Haim fell...and whatever happened to him contributed to his demise...big time.
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quote:
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I know personally how far Corey Haim fell...and whatever happened to him contributed to his demise...big time.

Exactly! Unfortunately, males, young or old, have a harder time reporting sexual abuse than females for a variety of reasons. Now that the shoe fell on Weinstein, I'm praying that male actors who were molested come forward and tell their story. I hope the Trump administration leads an investigation on the movie industry. By all accounts, it's an unpoliced sewer pit.

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Yeah. Almost as bad as the Trump Administration.

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quote:
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Yeah. Almost as bad as the Trump Administration.

Oh come on! When there are little boys being molested and women sexually abused in the White House (currently, not from 1993-2001) then I think there should be a full scale investigation.

Gotta say that I'm hoping that Conservatives aren't gonna make this a Dem-Rep or Conservative-Liberal issue. Lord knows there's been more than enough Bible thumpers being unmasked as perverts.

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Yeah, I think you need to refold your tinfoil hat.

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Wait, according to Shaving Weezie, there's a lot worse. His range of knowledge in this industry goes way beyond mine. I'll also take the word of Corey Haim, who was molested and claims that it's rather common in that industry.

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quote:
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Yeah. Almost as bad as the Trump Administration.

Or any local police department or jail in the country.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
Yeah. Almost as bad as the Trump Administration.

Or any local police department or jail in the country.
Let the false equivalencies begin!

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I can only imagine what kind of horror stories child actresses like Drew Barrymore or Hayden Panettiere have.
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