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The Coach
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Did the board control this title/belt (don't go bezerk, SWJ [Big Grin] ) ? I realize eventually the WWF bought it but I mean prior, dating back to Mildred Burke, up until it disappeared.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Farmer from WA:
Billy Wolfe

He died in the late 50's or early 60's as I recall, so who had control after that? Moolah?

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No, the NWA never had anything to do with any women's title. No such thing as an "NWA" women's title.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shaving Weezie Jefferson:
No, the NWA never had anything to do with any women's title. No such thing as an "NWA" women's title.

So it was randomly billed as such in some places?

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Just thinking of June Byers. During a good part of her career, she was referred to as women's champion although I'm not sure of the exact wording. Just wondering who made the decision(s) as to the results of her matches and if she remained champion?
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WWF bought the rights from Moohlah.

The NWA allegedly sanctioned a Women's title in the late 80s. Debbie Combs became champion and claimed that then President Bob Geigel decreed her and mother Cora control of the title.

In 1996 Howard Brody became President and restructured the organization. All World titles were declared vacant with the exception of the heavyweight title and now fell under control of the Board of Directors. But Debbie had continued defending her title in various places (I think even wrestling for Dennis Coralluzzo's promotion) and at one point lost it to a man, promoting Brody to step in on behalf of the NWA to uphold the "integrity" of the name and a dispute arose concerning her rights to the "NWA" Women's championship.

To my knowledge the current NWA still recognize a Women's World title.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Coach:
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Originally posted by Shaving Weezie Jefferson:
No, the NWA never had anything to do with any women's title. No such thing as an "NWA" women's title.

So it was randomly billed as such in some places?
In NWA territories, sure. There were no NWA titles though other than the NWA World heavyweight title, the NWA World junior heavyweight title, the NWA World light heavyweight title (mostly defended in Mexico and Los Angeles), and the early '60s version of the NWA U.S. title.

All the World tag titles, U.S. titles, National titles, North American titles, etc were just company belts that they occasionally threw the "NWA" name in front of.

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This thread made me think about this in general - in what territories were women's wrestling even a feature. Mid-Atlantic rarely ever had it, and it seems Florida and Georgia the same. Watts seems the same too.

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quote:
Originally posted by ckb_nc:
This thread made me think about this in general - in what territories were women's wrestling even a feature. Mid-Atlantic rarely ever had it, and it seems Florida and Georgia the same. Watts seems the same too.

Never saw a lot of it in Georgia or Florida. I was always under the impression that they were constantly traveling like the midgets. Never heard of them working a territory per se. Even back in '04 and '05 when I was booking, we had a group of girls but we only brought them in every 6 weeks or so.

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Florida had mainstays (non-Moolah girls) like Bonnie Watson, Sherri Lee and Ella Waldek that worked pretty regularly.

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I remember reading that Stu Hart presented a WOMAN'S Championship match as the Main Event for one of his Calgary Stampede shows
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Others may correct but Moolah didnt defend until the 70's in Toronto. Earlier "girls' matches were demonstrations/exhibitions not Matches. Gary Wills site is a good look at that When moolah did wrestle it was just billed as Woman's Title no NWA reference.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan P-170:
WWF bought the rights from Moohlah.

The NWA allegedly sanctioned a Women's title in the late 80s. Debbie Combs became champion and claimed that then President Bob Geigel decreed her and mother Cora control of the title.

In 1996 Howard Brody became President and restructured the organization. All World titles were declared vacant with the exception of the heavyweight title and now fell under control of the Board of Directors. But Debbie had continued defending her title in various places (I think even wrestling for Dennis Coralluzzo's promotion) and at one point lost it to a man, promoting Brody to step in on behalf of the NWA to uphold the "integrity" of the name and a dispute arose concerning her rights to the "NWA" Women's championship.

To my knowledge the current NWA still recognize a Women's World title.

It's one of those deals where you're not really "buying" anything.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan P-170:
WWF bought the rights from Moohlah.

The NWA allegedly sanctioned a Women's title in the late 80s. Debbie Combs became champion and claimed that then President Bob Geigel decreed her and mother Cora control of the title.

In 1996 Howard Brody became President and restructured the organization. All World titles were declared vacant with the exception of the heavyweight title and now fell under control of the Board of Directors. But Debbie had continued defending her title in various places (I think even wrestling for Dennis Coralluzzo's promotion) and at one point lost it to a man, promoting Brody to step in on behalf of the NWA to uphold the "integrity" of the name and a dispute arose concerning her rights to the "NWA" Women's championship.

To my knowledge the current NWA still recognize a Women's World title.

I believe Combs lost it to Beau James, who at that time was promoting with the NWA name in Virginia.
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quote:
Originally posted by ZEKER:
quote:
Originally posted by Dan P-170:
WWF bought the rights from Moohlah.

The NWA allegedly sanctioned a Women's title in the late 80s. Debbie Combs became champion and claimed that then President Bob Geigel decreed her and mother Cora control of the title.

In 1996 Howard Brody became President and restructured the organization. All World titles were declared vacant with the exception of the heavyweight title and now fell under control of the Board of Directors. But Debbie had continued defending her title in various places (I think even wrestling for Dennis Coralluzzo's promotion) and at one point lost it to a man, promoting Brody to step in on behalf of the NWA to uphold the "integrity" of the name and a dispute arose concerning her rights to the "NWA" Women's championship.

To my knowledge the current NWA still recognize a Women's World title.

I believe Combs lost it to Beau James, who at that time was promoting with the NWA name in Virginia.
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I was always under the impression that Geigel did create the Combs title, for her to use in appearances for KC, and she took it with her when they closed up.

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Cora had her own version of the US title for 30 years and passed it down to Debbie. Probably same title just re-purposed.

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Debbie won a battle royal presented by Polynesian Pro (actually two, one in HI and one in CA as they did the repeat title change in a different city/state deal) to become champion. Supposedly several NWA dignitaries were on hand to give it legitimacy. Geigel then presented her with the belt in a in ring ceremony in Kansas City.

She continued defending it until Brody interjected after the Beau James situation and said that officially the NWA didn't recognize the title and basically threatened legal action if they continued promoting it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan P-170:
Debbie won a battle royal presented by Polynesian Pro (actually two, one in HI and one in CA as they did the repeat title change in a different city/state deal) to become champion. Supposedly several NWA dignitaries were on hand to give it legitimacy. Geigel then presented her with the belt in a in ring ceremony in Kansas City.

She continued defending it until Brody interjected after the Beau James situation and said that officially the NWA didn't recognize the title and basically threatened legal action if they continued promoting it.

I have serious doubts it was an "officially sanctioned NWA title." Crockett held tournaments in Florida and Georgia for his World tag title too (while he was NWA prez) but it was never a real "NWA" title.

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Who controlled the NWA U.S womens title i remember seeing kat leroux and misty blue simms as ladies champs.
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quote:
Originally posted by SLS:
Who controlled the NWA U.S womens title i remember seeing kat leroux and misty blue simms as ladies champs.

I thought Misty was billed as the IWA (whatever that was) world champion. I know I say a picture in a non-Apter mag with her holding the belt.

I don't ever remember women wrestling in the AWA until Sherri Martel, Madusa and Wendi Richter in the mid-1980s.

Where did Moolah and her crew usually work? We're hearing a lot about what places they DIDN'T go, so where DID they go?

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Now I am probably wrong and someone will point it out but I have never seen a St. Louis result involving women.

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Moolah worked a few St. Louis cards:

6/22/77 Fabulous Moolah defeated Susan Green

10/28/77 Fabulous Moolah defeated Vickie Williams

11/23/79 Fabulous Moolah defeated Winona Little Heart

2/8/80 Wendi Richter & Tom Andrews defeated Fabulous Moolah & Bulldog Bob Brown

10/3/80 Fabulous Moolah & Sandy Partlowe defeated Candy Malloy & Betty Torres

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quote:
Originally posted by REO Speeddealer:
Moolah worked a few St. Louis cards:

6/22/77 Fabulous Moolah defeated Susan Green

10/28/77 Fabulous Moolah defeated Vickie Williams

11/23/79 Fabulous Moolah defeated Winona Little Heart

2/8/80 Wendi Richter & Tom Andrews defeated Fabulous Moolah & Bulldog Bob Brown

10/3/80 Fabulous Moolah & Sandy Partlowe defeated Candy Malloy & Betty Torres

Dream team on the 2/8/80 card - Moolah and Bulldog Bob Brown!

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quote:
Originally posted by mr. disco:
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Originally posted by SLS:
Who controlled the NWA U.S womens title i remember seeing kat leroux and misty blue simms as ladies champs.

I thought Misty was billed as the IWA (whatever that was) world champion. I know I say a picture in a non-Apter mag with her holding the belt.

I don't ever remember women wrestling in the AWA until Sherri Martel, Madusa and Wendi Richter in the mid-1980s.

Where did Moolah and her crew usually work? We're hearing a lot about what places they DIDN'T go, so where DID they go?

Simms had the IWF Women's championship and the IWA and worked a lot with Kat Leroux and Linda Dallas. Crockett brought her in as the Women's Champion, for a brief period of time. The belt I recall looked like the same style, if not the actual belt, that she was pictured with when she worked the IWF and IWA.

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