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The Coach
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We've discussed Flair's matches with both and how good they were. Wondering if anyone recalls Barry and Brad locking up? I can't but am thinking it would've been a barn burner.

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June 1988 Clash of Champions. Kinda short but very good as expected
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They also had a few televised matches against each other in the early 90s, including I think Barry's first after winning the NWA title.

Speaking of 1990s NWA, I've been reading through old Observer recaps on Reddit and it seems Jim Cornette, who never joined the NWA but was close a couple of times and used the champion, was pushing for Brad to get the title.

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Did they face when Barry was in the West Texas Rednecks and Brad in the No Limit Soldiers?

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quote:
Originally posted by Big Daddy Meatybone:
Did they face when Barry was in the West Texas Rednecks and Brad in the No Limit Soldiers?

They were on opposing teams at the 1999 Bash at the Beach.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
June 1988 Clash of Champions. Kinda short but very good as expected

Very smooth match, a night off for both guys, Brad was always good in the ring, I don't think anyone questions that, but didn't have National level charisma, but if the territories had survived...

And Barry, when he was on, was a Top Ten in North America level worker.

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Not sure if someone mentioned this previously, but Brad Armstrong has a clean win over Ric Flair on his record. This was either '86 or '87 at a house show. I remember reading it in a back issue of the Observer and couldn't believe my eyes.

I also recall when Bill Watts changed the format of the Saturday TBS show to WCW Saturday Night with the set looking like a talk show. One of the first main events in the new format was Brad Armstrong vs Great Muta. This was May '92 when my man Riki Rachtman was guest co-host. Match is on YouTube.

Brad was one of my favorites. Just a phenomenal talent.

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Not to split hairs but the talk show format and the overall change to WCW Saturday Night happened under Kip Frey.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Berberovic:
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Originally posted by Tatsuya:
June 1988 Clash of Champions. Kinda short but very good as expected

Very smooth match, a night off for both guys, Brad was always good in the ring, I don't think anyone questions that, but didn't have National level charisma, but if the territories had survived...

And Barry, when he was on, was a Top Ten in North America level worker.

"Charisma" is the most overused and misused term in wrestling.

What people really mean is that the actor doesn't fit the role.

And that's only a problem because the writer/director only is only casting for a certain type of a role.

The guys everyone points to as "having no charisma" are generally just guys who didn't fit the role being cast.

Brad needed new boots. And maybe a good heel run. He had "charisma." It was just misdirected.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Berberovic:
quote:
Originally posted by Tatsuya:
June 1988 Clash of Champions. Kinda short but very good as expected

Very smooth match, a night off for both guys, Brad was always good in the ring, I don't think anyone questions that, but didn't have National level charisma, but if the territories had survived...

And Barry, when he was on, was a Top Ten in North America level worker.

Personally thought Barry was the best wrestler in the US during this time. I especially liked him as a heel because he got to be more of an ass kicker.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan P-170:
Not to split hairs but the talk show format and the overall change to WCW Saturday Night happened under Kip Frey.

New look, set, and music debuted in April of 1992. Watts took over in late February.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wrestling Professor:
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Originally posted by Dan P-170:
Not to split hairs but the talk show format and the overall change to WCW Saturday Night happened under Kip Frey.

New look, set, and music debuted in April of 1992. Watts took over in late February.
Kip Frey was in charge January-May 1992.

Watts was in charge June 1992-February 1993.

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Kip now runs a company that helps make dogs smarter:

https://www.dognition.com/

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Dan P-170, you're absolutely right, I stand corrected. I got my SuperBrawls mixed up, as he was let go right before SuperBrawl '93 and I got mixed up, thinking he was hired right before SuperBrawl '92.

The early Kip (or "K. Allen Frey" as he liked to be called) months were underrated and had good ratings. Kinda wish they had kept him in charge, but nobody could've anticipated Watts would've been as disastrous as he was.

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