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DR. PAPUFNIK
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Stories from two guys not necessarily known for being full of it in interviews, but it is wrestling and these seem a little excessive.
1. Gary Hart said the way to get blood from a clawhold was for the guy applying the hold to blade his fingers. You'd really have to slice up you finger pretty good to get blood.
2. Jim Cornette said to get blood from the mouth, you would actually draw the blood backstage into a syringe, shoot the blood into a condom, tie the condom off, put it in you mouth and then bite it when the time came.
Are these legit?

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quote:
Originally posted by DR. PAPUFNIK:
Stories from two guys not necessarily known for being full of it in interviews, but it is wrestling and these seem a little excessive.
1. Gary Hart said the way to get blood from a clawhold was for the guy applying the hold to blade his fingers. You'd really have to slice up you finger pretty good to get blood.
2. Jim Cornette said to get blood from the mouth, you would actually draw the blood backstage into a syringe, shoot the blood into a condom, tie the condom off, put it in you mouth and then bite it when the time came.
Are these legit?

The condom thing was, apparently, as it was used in a couple of angles. Not sure about the finger thing, though, supposedly, Fritz cut his fingers badly while blading in Japan, causing a bloodier clawhold than expected. not sure if he intended to cut his fingers or his opponent's forehead and hit his fingers. I wanna say it was against Baba; but don't really know.

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Don't quote me, but I think Gary is referring to the blade being taped to the finger of the person administering the claw.

Take this from a diabetic who pricks his fingers 6 times a day. I would rather blade my forehead than my fingertips. A lot of nerve ending there

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I think the deal with Fritz was that he had the claw on Baba. Baba reached up to blade himself and accidentally cut Fritz pretty bad.

I think they later explained that Baba had ripped out one of Frtiz's nails while trying to pull his fingers off his head.

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Ivan Koloff made reference to the condom technique a few times in his book. Must be something to it. I could never understand how guys kept their blade in their mouth without getting cut to ribbons. The most sane method I ever heard was having a plant in the first row of the crowd hold the blade, wrestler gets thrown that way and the pass is made. Wrestler rolls in pain towards the ring apron, gigging as he goes. Blade gets tossed under ring. This was in some book I read, maybe Gary Harts?
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If you want to see a match with the second one, watch the Lesnar-Hogan match where Hogan bleeds internally from the bearhug. You can pretty clearly see him chewing before the blood comes spurting out. Not sure if they used a condom or real blood necessarily but the desired effect was the same.
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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:


I think they later explained that Baba had ripped out one of Frtiz's nails while trying to pull his fingers off his head.

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quote:
Originally posted by midsouthfan from N.O.:
Don't quote me, but I think Gary is referring to the blade being taped to the finger of the person administering the claw.

Take this from a diabetic who pricks his fingers 6 times a day. I would rather blade my forehead than my fingertips. A lot of nerve ending there

As a diabetic guitar player, i got absolutely no problem pricking my fingers. Time to pick up a guitar, midsouthfan!
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quote:
Originally posted by davephlegmball:
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Originally posted by midsouthfan from N.O.:
Don't quote me, but I think Gary is referring to the blade being taped to the finger of the person administering the claw.

Take this from a diabetic who pricks his fingers 6 times a day. I would rather blade my forehead than my fingertips. A lot of nerve ending there

As a diabetic guitar player, i got absolutely no problem pricking my fingers. Time to pick up a guitar, midsouthfan!
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Why bother drawing blood with a syringe to put into a condom to bite on when you could just use tomato juice or some other red liquid?
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quote:
Originally posted by davephlegmball:
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Originally posted by midsouthfan from N.O.:
Don't quote me, but I think Gary is referring to the blade being taped to the finger of the person administering the claw.

Take this from a diabetic who pricks his fingers 6 times a day. I would rather blade my forehead than my fingertips. A lot of nerve ending there

As a diabetic guitar player, i got absolutely no problem pricking my fingers. Time to pick up a guitar, midsouthfan!
Oh I don't have one either. But I would DEFINITELY have one blading my fingertips [Eek!]
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OSJ from NM by way of WA
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Having done both (for a book signing) my experience was this:

Blading finger, not much blood, hurt like hell; proceed to "Plan B".

"Plan B", blading forehead: didn't feel a thing, but Mutoh and Chono would have been pleased with the results. Must've hit a small vein from the way the red stuff was squirting halfway across the room. Plenty to sign books with and a great photo op. Of course, the pictures didn't come out worth a crap.

Lastly (even though he didn't want to be quoted) midsouthfan likely has it right, usually, the person applying the claw is also the one doing the cutting. (Thus avoiding mishaps like the one with Baba and Fritz). It's going to be far, far easier for the person applying the claw to safely gig their opponent than it is for said opponent to have to reach up, make the cut, avoid their opponents fingers, all the while hiding the blade.

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I've only gotten color once and it was forehead. I've seen guys use like small balloons with food coloring but it always looked lame because water doesn't have the same consistency as blood so even after they bit into it, the "blood" just drained quick and didn't give that good of a visual. I think tomato juice is too orange for a blood visual but I don't drink it so I have no idea. I just saw the balloon/condom gimmick with red food coloring and it looked silly.
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quote:
Originally posted by Happ Hazzard:
Why bother drawing blood with a syringe to put into a condom to bite on when you could just use tomato juice or some other red liquid?

According to Cornette (and I've heard this from others) ringside fans would dip their fingers in it and taste it to make sure it was real blood. Gotta protect the business.
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I've read pig blood was used to fill the condoms.
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The food coloring in the condom is how guys like Muta sprayed the dreaded green mist.

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I know the use of a blood filled condom has merit...

The late Cowboy Frankie Lane told me one time he had a condom filled with blood in his mouth and before the time came to bite on it...it flew out of his mouth and skittered across the ring.

You seldom see guys bleeding from the mouth in that fashion and to me at least it's maybe a little more "credible/believable" than blading the forehead. To my eye and I'm thinking as a fan here it indicates the wrestler has internal injuries from taking a couple of real hard stomach blows for example. Spitting up blood usually means you're in serious trouble right??

To me it's just more effective than blading...

Does that make any sense?

Your thoughts appreciated...

[ 03-14-2017, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: unclefester ]

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Blading sucks, at least as far as I am concerned, but then again I'm not really a professional wrestler just a part timer guy in the Indys, the first time I tried it I didn't go deep enough and it looked like a cat scratched me, the second time I went too deep and bled like a stuck hog, but had also taken a few aspirin beforehand so that may have been something to do with it.


I have heard that the real pros from back in the day, some of them had so much thin skin and scar tissue on their foreheads that they could just about get color from smacking themselves and opening old wounds and that the blade was just to make it better, in any case I wouldn't want scars like Abby or Manny Fernandez anyways!!

One trick I like is to take an alka seltzer and bite into it, it makes the foaming at the mouth trick look great, but tastes awful.

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There's always pig's blood and vodka to simulate internal injuries, ala Invader 3-Manny Fernandez

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quote:
Originally posted by The Saviour of Misbehaviour:
There's always pig's blood and vodka to simulate internal injuries, ala Invader 3-Manny Fernandez

Remind me to never order a Bloody Mary in Puerto Rico...
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