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Chan of Chan and Charlie
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I have watched some of the UWF on ESPN Classic.

I was wondering who is Colonel Red, the manager? Did he work elsewhere?

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This is from the "dead letter" office.

Has any info emerged on Colonel Red? Other than he was a funny, funny, guy doing a very bad job entertaining thousands?

Was he a member of the Witness Protection program? Was he, in fact, a member of the WCMB hierarchy and there is a conspiracy of silence I am unaware of? Same for Rocky Mountain Thunder.

It takes longer to find things that aren't there.

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did he manage ivan koloff in the uwf?
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Colonel Red (or anyone else, for that matter) entertaining thousands? Obviously you have grossly overestimated the popularity of Abrams' UWF.

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I meant "thousands" as a cumulative guesstimate, and certainly not paid attendance. A LOT of the audience look like they were allowed to just wandered in, and I recall no celebrity shots.

So, we have had our fun kicking dirt on poor Herb.

I am going to try to keep the thread alive long enough to get the poop on Colonel Red. He DOESN'T look like the type who would be able to erase all documentation of his existence. Unless he was the guy bugging the offices of "Mr. Electricity" for the CIA.

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quote:
Originally posted by brawler2711:
did he manage ivan koloff in the uwf?

Sorry, your post was so brief, I skipped by it. Yes, your one sentence contains pretty well all the information available - managed Ivan Koloff in Herb Abram's UWF. Most opinions are that he was unintentionally, hilariously bad.

I am wondering if there some sort of inside joke or conspiracy that is keeping him so anonymous.

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UWF rocked and made wrestling seem like it was 1985 again.
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I sense some irony. The thing that tugs at me, is that Herb Abrams and Gordon Scozzari had their shortcomings. But at the time, who could say that they were 100% doomed to failure? I don't think it is a huge leap of faith to consider, with a little bit of (dumb) luck and a few factors being different, we might be viewing the AWF and UWF in a more respectful way.

I like your reference to 1985. With a bit more research, I think I will come up with a date around there, where my opinion of the product started going downhill.

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quote:
Originally posted by brawler2711:
UWF rocked and made wrestling seem like it was 1985 again.

You may be the only one that feels that way lol. I watched it and still do and yes they brought in the names but...eh...um...yeah.
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Phobus271

The UWF showa can be considered "watchable". I've seen other message boards where every show has been analyzed and every embarrassing moment was appropriately mocked. The names were there, a few matches went well, and most TV's do have a "mute" button. So you watched UWF and didn't obsess over learning more about the true identity of Colonel Red?

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the orndorff/steve williams angle was well done.

muraco, blair, cactus, spivey and other well known names were in.

the penta looked good on tv and the familer voices of craig degeorge and bruno were on the stick for some of the show.

i like the captain lou segment as well.

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With a name like "Colonel Red", I would have expected someone inspired by Kenny Delmar's Senator character on Fred Allen's radio show ("it's a joke, son) or Foghorn Leghorn (inspired by the Senator as well).

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I'll match your Fred Allen reference, and raise you an Oofty Goofty! Nice reference, fellow iconoclast. I believe Foghorn was direct spoof of the radio character.

Colonel Red was more like the bast**d spawn of Foghorn and Natalya from the Bullwinkle show.
Sort hard to really tell as he was barely coherent. Maybe did the same pre-taping prep work as Mr. Electricity.

Yes I knew Bruno and preppy Craig original made the call. But I think that lasted as long as it took for the first paycheck to NOT clear. Then we had Herb with "Coach" John Tolos (who I have DESPISED since age five, when I first stumbled onto TV wrestling).

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Is it the same guy who was Dr. Red Roberts in the GWA?

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The good Colonel's work was discussed here:

http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=105612

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quote:
Originally posted by Happ Hazzard:
Is it the same guy who was Dr. Red Roberts in the GWA?

Absolutely not. That guy was a real shrink btw.

So long from the Sunshine State!

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quote:
Originally posted by GShea from TN loves Sarah Palin:
The good Colonel's work was discussed here:

http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=105612

Yes, we passed by on that thread. Still skunked on the true identity of the Colonel. Thanks CM for saving me a wild goose chase on Red Roberts. YOU weren't Colonel Red, perchance?

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Colonel Red probably went on to a not particularly lucrative career as Bruce Pobanz' webmaster/"testemonial" writer.

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From Howard Brody's book:

Colonel Red's real name was Marty Yesburg.

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Dear Kenji, you are a gent and a fine example of the bushido tradition. I have no idea why I was obsessing over that speck of information. The chances of me spotting it in that book would be NIL

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Here ya go.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Foothills-Event-Calander/116854431710422#!/profile.php?id=593155790

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Glad to be of service. I was reading through the book today, and just happen to come across that tidbit of info.
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quote:
Originally posted by bburgess64 from OR via VA:
With a name like "Colonel Red", I would have expected someone inspired by Kenny Delmar's Senator character on Fred Allen's radio show ("it's a joke, son) or Foghorn Leghorn (inspired by the Senator as well).

Senator Beauregard Claghorn, on the Fred Allen show from '45' to '49

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