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Anti-Semitism: the one thing the rest of the world agrees on.

Except the Cheeto Benito. He thinks Jewish people who vote for Democrats are anti-American and disloyal to Israel.
No, that just further solidifies him as an anti-semite, putting him right in step with everybody else.
I misread what you wrote. I thought you meant that the rest of the world was against anti-semitism. My apologies.
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quote:
Originally posted by TVO:
Mask is correct both the extreme right and left all hate Jews and Israel!

So do you condemn Trump for what he said or does he get a pass?
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Originally posted by TVO:
Only an anti-semite would say the holocaust gives you a calm feeling. She or you can justify this all you want but Who says such a thing. Also her people rarley if never helped Jews after the Holcaust. The opposiate is true as soon as the survivors arrived they were forced to fight allongside native Isralies in 1948 against 5+ Arab 5 armies.

I guess you do not consider her taste in cartoons anti-semtic either?

https://www.jns.org/adl-jewish-groups-criticize-omar-tlaib-for-sharing-anti-semitic-cartoon/

only a fool would continue to state as fact something the article they posted to support their views states is false.

can you describe what you consider to be anti-semetic about the cartoon shown in the article? maybe show the cartoon, others may see the same thing as you do.. or not

[ 08-21-2019, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: King Francis ]

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Actually only a fool would not think this cartoon is not antiemetic.

Actually your lack of empathy about the cartoon truly for shows your true colors!

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again, what do you find anti-semetic? or is it like the article you posted that proved what you claimed it said was inaccurate to put it nicely.

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The Star of David makes it look pretty anti-Semitic, no doubt. The problem may be that in this case, the country's flag uses the same symbol as the religion, so if you "mock" one you're pretty much "mocking" the other. Still, it's disingenuous at best to think that the cartoon won't be taken that way.

(It would certainly be taken as anti-Islamic if the crescent and star were used in a similar manner, even if technically the cartoonist was referring to a particular country that used that symbol on its flag.)

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quote:
Originally posted by K. Fabian McClinch:
The Star of David makes it look pretty anti-Semitic, no doubt. The problem may be that in this case, the country's flag uses the same symbol as the religion, so if you "mock" one you're pretty much "mocking" the other. Still, it's disingenuous at best to think that the cartoon won't be taken that way.

(It would certainly be taken as anti-Islamic if the crescent and star were used in a similar manner, even if technically the cartoonist was referring to a particular country that used that symbol on its flag.)

Thanks.. trying to understand what others saw as anti-semetic about it...

I saw a cartoon of 2 world leaders who told 2 woman they couldn't come to a country unless they had their speech restricted. One was the US president, the other the Israel leader. It made fun of both..

why I asked.. I must be one of the 'dis-loyal' ones Cadet is speaking about [Wink]

[ 08-21-2019, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: King Francis ]

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quote:
Originally posted by King Francis:
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Originally posted by K. Fabian McClinch:
The Star of David makes it look pretty anti-Semitic, no doubt. The problem may be that in this case, the country's flag uses the same symbol as the religion, so if you "mock" one you're pretty much "mocking" the other. Still, it's disingenuous at best to think that the cartoon won't be taken that way.

(It would certainly be taken as anti-Islamic if the crescent and star were used in a similar manner, even if technically the cartoonist was referring to a particular country that used that symbol on its flag.)

Thanks.. trying to understand what others saw as anti-semetic about it...

I saw a cartoon of 2 world leaders who told 2 woman they couldn't come to a country unless they had their speech restricted. One was the US president, the other the Israel leader. It made fun of both..

why I asked.. I must be one of the 'dis-loyal' ones Cadet is speaking about [Wink]

A lot of people, including a lot of Jewish people who support Israeli policy, loathe Netanyahu and T-Rump equally, so I don't think most folks would consider that cartoon, as you describe it, as being anti-Semitic.

Let's face it, folks. T-Rump is getting EXACTLY what he wants from all this (at least domestically): ugliness, discord, hate-fanning, flame-fanning,dissension, throwing raw meat where he knows it'll be pounced on with bloody fury . . .

. . . in a lot of cities (incl. Chicago), the cops are notorious for igniting violence between different gangs/sets by doing things like f*cking with the graffiti to make folks think there's a war coming (thus ensuring that it comes), picking up a kid and dropping him off in the middle of a rival set's turf, etc. etc. etc. . . .

. . . or, to use maybe a more appropriate example, Under Nixon, COINTELPRO fomented sectarian divisions and rivalries within the Black Panther Party, the SDS, and other radical groups by planting undercover agents who stirred up (and/or invented) rivalries, suspicions, and distrust. (According to some, Eldridge Cleaver himself was an FBI mole who helped orchestrate the setting-up and downfall of Huey Newton.) They also ignited street violence by placing "plants" among radical organizations to goad them into violence (or, if all else failed, just start throwing things or blowing things up during an otherwise peaceful demonstration, to give the cops an excuse to move in).

Y'think T-Rump isn't playing that exact same game???

[ 08-21-2019, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: K. Fabian McClinch ]

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divide and let them conquer each other, come in and clean out the rest..

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When I said that was the most ignorant thing I ever heard, I didn't realize you were still talking.

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Well, I suppose there's always the possibility it could backfire. The way he's going now (between the Tlaib/Omar train wreck, this new "disloyalty" accusation, and God/Allah/Jehovah-knows-what-next), he seems close to achieving the nearly miraculous feat of uniting Jewish, Muslim, pro- AND anti-Israeli factions against him.

T-Rump the Unifier? Sheesh -- maybe the End Times ARE imminent.

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quote:
Originally posted by TVO:
Mask is correct both the extreme right and left all hate Jews and Israel!

The middle ain't no f****** Shavuot picnic either.

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By the way in case nobody's keeping score he just proclaimed himself Messiah and King of the Jews. Does that mean we get to crucify him now?

[ 08-21-2019, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: Crimson Mask from FL ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
By the way in case nobody's keeping score he just proclaimed himself Messiah and King of the Jews. Does that mean we get to crucify him now?

"If anyone thinks that I ain’t divine,
He’ll get no free drinks when I’m making the wine,
But have to drink water and wish it were plain
That I make when the wine becomes water again!"

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Agreed Mask the middle and every shade inbetween is also a Balagan of anti-semitism!

Heck part of this thread is proof.

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yea, those who dont agree with everything you say or post to support your claims are anti-semites. Even when the article you post states the opposite of what you said it did.

Sounds alot like the King of Israel (2nd coming of gawd)... ignorant

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quote:
Originally posted by K. Fabian McClinch:
Well, I suppose there's always the possibility it could backfire. The way he's going now (between the Tlaib/Omar train wreck, this new "disloyalty" accusation, and God/Allah/Jehovah-knows-what-next), he seems close to achieving the nearly miraculous feat of uniting Jewish, Muslim, pro- AND anti-Israeli factions against him.

T-Rump the Unifier? Sheesh -- maybe the End Times ARE imminent.

groups that have been discriminated against can feel for other groups being discriminated against.

but your right, thats another BIGGLY accomplishment that no other President has been able to do..

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You have alot incommon with your president lol

You have some common interests [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by TVO:
You have alot incommon with your president lol

You have some common interests [Smile]

I have been referred to as the 2nd coming of...

god wasnt mentioned

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lol case closed [Wink]

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quote:
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yea, those who dont agree with everything you say or post to support your claims are anti-semites.

The irony is thick in that there was just a long thread on here about painting everyone with the same brush as a racist and that one size fits all characterizations are lazy and inaccurate.

Your argument is the exact same one I made a few weeks ago when the everyone who disagrees is a racist trope was trotted out.

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100 Masks you cant reason with Heimrich Van Goostomper lol

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I always thought a "second coming" meant someone was pretty good at lovemaking . . .

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. . . I think I'm having multiple sarcasms . . .

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This morning evil Terrorist killed a neighbor of mine and seriously injured her family [Frown]

https://www.israelhayom.com/2019/08/23/report-2-israeli-teens-wounded-in-explosion-in-dolev/

You wonder why Israel does not let the 2 losers from the Squat into Israel!

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quote:
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Why should Israel let people who actively call for their destruction into their country?

Fvck Netanyahu and all of his sycophants. He's as worthless as Trump.

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Billy Burgess why do you think it is ok for Netanyahu not to defend his country from people who want distruction of Israel?

Have you ever had bombs land near your home? Have you ever had a family members murdered by terrorists? The reason why people vote for Netanyahu is Security!

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Given what you yourself was just saying, I can't say that I think he's doing such a sh*t-hot job of it.

But it feeds to the fear, which gets his criminal *ss re-elected.




....sounds vaguely familiar....

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quote:
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Only an anti-semite would say the holocaust gives you a calm feeling. She or you can justify this all you want but Who says such a thing. Also her people rarley if never helped Jews after the Holcaust. The opposiate is true as soon as the survivors arrived they were forced to fight allongside native Isralies in 1948 against 5+ Arab 5 armies.


She never said the Holocaust gave her a calm feeling. You're reaching.
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He's not reaching, but there multiple right-wing news outlets that reported it were. Correct that is not what she said

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-warm-feeling/

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He's not reaching, but there multiple right-wing news outlets that reported it were. Correct that is not what she said

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rashida-tlaib-holocaust-warm-feeling/

just regurgitating what he swallows..

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I'm somewhere in the middle on all this.Israel has to do what it needs to do to survive but there's a line past which you cross and you become the oppressor. I'm really not that impressed with whose territory it was 9000 years ago but contemporary reality is what needs to be dealt with. Netanyahoo in my opinion cannot be faulted for taking a strong position but on the other hand like tRump is corrupt and fascist. As I've already stated I believe Omar to have an anti-Semitic worldview. I'm not that convinced about Tlaib and in any case I agree with both of them about most issues. And they are obviously not losers since they won their elections and tRump can shove his go back where you came from rhetoric up his fat ass. Or he should go back to Germany except oops they're not real tolerant of Nazis these days. And I do not think they should have been barred from the country. It makes Israel appear fascist and censorious. They should be accorded the courtesy due to their position is Congress people if nothing else and confronted ideologically.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
. . . Or he should go back to Germany . . .

. . . to visit his dad's folks, no doubt --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/02/trump-wrongly-claims-his-dad-was-born-germany-third-time/?noredirect=on

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