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PCmor
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Just going to vent a bit here about an exchange I had with a colleague on Twitter this afternoon.

He tweeted that instead of Rapinoe using her platform to put the spotlight on inequality in the United States, she should be grateful that she lives in a country where she has a voice and isn't being beaten for her sexual preference.

I responded that I didn't think the way to object to what she was doing was by saying we are better than North Korea, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, et al, that the U.S. says it stands for something more, so we shouldn't be using those countries as our standard.

He answered that I shouldn't put words in his mouth (I'm not sure how I did, tbh), that this is the most diverse country on the planet, and that he didn't like that she made it out that her life was so hard.

I thought he was conflating diversity with equality and replied that, that if our country's foundation is supposed to be equality, then she shouldn't have to be worried about having fewer rights based on her gender, sexual preference, age, religion, skin color, etc. That wasn't a matter of opinion. It was a matter of law. This wasn't about her having the right to speak her mind when people in other countries couldn't. This was a matter that she had to deal with, and that I thought it was presumptuous of him to talk about how easy or hard it was to live in her shoes.

His reply was that she had a platform and could say what she wanted, just like anyone else. But it seemed to me his very first point was to take away her right to have a voice.

I thought he kind of made Rapinoe's point over the course of our debate. But he still didn't get it. He even told me to shut up at one point.

I don't know how someone even reasons with this line of thought. Thanks for the forum to vent about my frustration.

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You don't reason with it. You can't reason with it. It's a matter of faith with these people, not reason.

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It's crazy, CM. Two people other than me commented on the thread. Both of them agreed that Rapinoe was wrong and, just like with Kaepernick and others, picked apart the problems they had with the method she used to draw attention to her cause instead of taking even a sentence to address the cause istelf.
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I honestly have my doubts that there is hope for this country. Too many people are too frustrated with their own lives and take out anger on targets of opportunity instead of what ails them, IMO.
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And, I mean, all three of these guys who were arguing with me ... all well-educated adults, all reasonably successful in their careers.
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I just checked back in on the conversation. It's now four 50-year-old Caucasian men debating and agreeing with each other on the proper ways for people to whom they don't relate to protest or demonstrate. That's the biggest issue to them.
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It's just more fear of white men losing their so called power and position. Rapinoe first drew attention by being the first white person outside of the NFL to take a knee in support of Kaepernick. Then she said she wouldn't meet the White House baboon and white men lost their fvcking minds. Now that had no issue with Tom Brady saying he wouldn't meet Obama. THAT was freedom of speech.

When a gay women does it tho, that's unAmerkin.

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If you're trying to protest something and not making people uncomfortable, uneasy or inconvenienced....

....you're doing it wrong.


On top of that, the only wrong way to protest is the method that leaves someone physically hurt. Anything up to that point is fair game.

Certain former posters didn't seem to get that. They probably would have sided with King George when someone dumped a bunch of tea in the drink....

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Something that a lot of people don't understand about her is that she understands racism all too well. Her older brother got in trouble with drugs years ago and ended up joining a Nazi prison gang. She's seen the darkest side of white racism way closer than most people ever will.

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quote:
Originally posted by PVM:
Something that a lot of people don't understand about her is that she understands racism all too well. Her older brother got in trouble with drugs years ago and ended up joining a Nazi prison gang. She's seen the darkest side of white racism way closer than most people ever will.

Wow -- didn't know that.

This whole "We're better than the worst, so don't complain" argument was already old and ridiculous back in the 1960s/'70s era of "If you don't like it here, try the Soviet Union!" -- Comparing oneself to the worst possible alternative is hardly an inspiring or proactive attitude, regardless of where one stands on the political spectrum. Somehow I can't believe that anyone is still making that argument and taking it seriously.

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Sounds to me that your colleague is just upset that he's not allowed to beat lesbians.

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Or packing the gear to even if he was.

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the argument from people that they should just play soccer and shut up about their politics come from the same people who cheered an actor talking to a chair..

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When I said that was the most ignorant thing I ever heard, I didn't realize you were still talking.

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And elected a far worse one, and then later a game show host, president.

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