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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html

Jussie Smollett was attacked by racist white idiots. He was beaten, had bleach poured on him and a noose put around his neck while they shouted racist and homophobic slurs.

It has been REPORTED AS (emphasized so not to upset our resident fascist and have him claim I am spreading lies and false info) MAGA hat wearing white guys yelling this is MAGA country. THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED HOWEVER. The case has been turned over to the FBI because it is still a hate crime regardless of the hats worn.

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I'm sure the person you referred to thinks Smollett is a crisis actor and did this to himself to make tRump and white people look bad.

I'm also sure Fox News will give a complete rundown on every parking ticket he ever got and how many criminals are in his family. Surely if this happened to him he deserved it. Probably wearing a hoodie.

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Chicago PD confirmed the yelling of "This is MAGA country" but no mention of the hats.
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quote:
Originally posted by Killllla:
Chicago PD confirmed the yelling of "This is MAGA country" but no mention of the hats.

Huh?

Every source I could find said Chicago police have released a statement contradicting claims that Smollett identified his attackers' race and heard them shout "MAGA."


"We have no record of The MAGA Country comment," said the police in a statement. "We have racial and homophobic comments documented."


https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/jussie-smollett-reportedly-hospitalized-in-chicago-foll-1832158963

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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
quote:
Originally posted by Killllla:
Chicago PD confirmed the yelling of "This is MAGA country" but no mention of the hats.

Huh?

Every source I could find said Chicago police have released a statement contradicting claims that Smollett identified his attackers' race and heard them shout "MAGA."


"We have no record of The MAGA Country comment," said the police in a statement. "We have racial and homophobic comments documented."


https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/jussie-smollett-reportedly-hospitalized-in-chicago-foll-1832158963

Yeah, I have not heard any verification either. I don't doubt it, but I have not seen any verification yet.
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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
quote:
Originally posted by Killllla:
Chicago PD confirmed the yelling of "This is MAGA country" but no mention of the hats.

Huh?

Every source I could find said Chicago police have released a statement contradicting claims that Smollett identified his attackers' race and heard them shout "MAGA."


"We have no record of The MAGA Country comment," said the police in a statement. "We have racial and homophobic comments documented."


https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/jussie-smollett-reportedly-hospitalized-in-chicago-foll-1832158963

From TMZ who are confirming this came from the police, take that for what it may be worth.

"Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We're told when shortly after he walked out on his way home, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"

The 2 men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country."

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I guess he sent this to Fox IN CHICAGO too.

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quote:
Originally posted by sam the lion from WA:
quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
quote:
Originally posted by Killllla:
Chicago PD confirmed the yelling of "This is MAGA country" but no mention of the hats.

Huh?

Every source I could find said Chicago police have released a statement contradicting claims that Smollett identified his attackers' race and heard them shout "MAGA."


"We have no record of The MAGA Country comment," said the police in a statement. "We have racial and homophobic comments documented."


https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/jussie-smollett-reportedly-hospitalized-in-chicago-foll-1832158963

From TMZ who are confirming this came from the police, take that for what it may be worth.

"Sources directly connected to Jussie tell TMZ, the actor arrived in Chicago from New York late Monday, and at around 2 AM he was hungry and went to a Subway. We're told when shortly after he walked out on his way home, someone yelled, "Aren't you that f***ot 'Empire' n*****?"

The 2 men -- both white and wearing ski masks -- viciously attacked Jussie as he fought back, but they beat him badly and fractured a rib. They put a rope around his neck, poured bleach on him and as they left they yelled, "This is MAGA country."

Police have issued a statement saying no evidence yet. But witnesses are still saying it.
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quote:

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/jussie-smollett-reportedly-hospitalized-in-chicago-foll-1832158963

Update: 1/29/2019, 3:54 p.m. ET:

The Chicago Police Department has reportedly released a statement denying claims of MAGA involvement and are not committed to confirming the assailants’ race at this time.

“According to the victim, the offenders’ faces were concealed,” a police spokesperson told Reason.com. “We have no record indicating that [they shouted ‘MAGA’], we only have record of them shouting racial and homophobic slurs at him.”

The incident is still currently under investigation.

“We have no record of The MAGA Country comment,” added the police spokesperson. “We have racial and homophobic comments documented.”

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https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/29/empire-star-jussie-smollett-attacked-hospitalized-homophobic-hate-crime/

4:00 PM PT -- Chicago PD confirms to TMZ Jussie told them, in a follow-up interview, about the attackers yelling, "MAGA country."

For the math/geography challenged, 4 PM PT = 7 PM ET

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
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4:00 PM PT -- Chicago PD confirms to TMZ Jussie told them, in a follow-up interview, about the attackers yelling, "MAGA country."


Perfect. I have not checked it in a while.

That being said, I wonder what the defense will be about this, like how will he attempt to spin it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cory:
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Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
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4:00 PM PT -- Chicago PD confirms to TMZ Jussie told them, in a follow-up interview, about the attackers yelling, "MAGA country."


Perfect. I have not checked it in a while.

That being said, I wonder what the defense will be about this, like how will he attempt to spin it.

He’s never going to mention that it happened.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cory:
quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
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4:00 PM PT -- Chicago PD confirms to TMZ Jussie told them, in a follow-up interview, about the attackers yelling, "MAGA country."


Perfect. I have not checked it in a while.

That being said, I wonder what the defense will be about this, like how will he attempt to spin it.

False Flag Op.

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No leads yet.

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Detectives have reviewed surveillance footage of “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett walking to a downtown Chicago apartment after an early-morning visit to a Subway restaurant, but none of it showed an attack on the actor, a police official said Wednesday.

Investigators “for the most part” can confirm the route Smollett took early Tuesday when he says he was attacked by two masked men along a street in the Streeterville neighborhood, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. However, there are gaps and none of the footage police have reviewed shows an attack, he said.

Guglielmi said detectives who are investigating the allegations as a possible hate crime, have looked at hundreds of hours of surveillance video from businesses and hotels in the heavily monitored area. But he said they still need to collect and view more. He said they are expanding the search to include footage from public buses and buildings beyond the crime scene’s immediate vicinity in the hopes of spotting the men who match Mollett’s description of the suspects.

“We haven’t seen anybody, at this point, matching the description he gave, nobody looks menacing and we didn’t find a container anywhere,” Guglielmi said, referring to a container for the liquid that was thrown at the actor.


https://www.apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a

That's an upscale area with a lot of businesses and shops, so there's a lot of cameras. In addition, there's a number of bars and reports are there should have been significant pedestrian traffic.

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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
No leads yet.

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Detectives have reviewed surveillance footage of “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett walking to a downtown Chicago apartment after an early-morning visit to a Subway restaurant, but none of it showed an attack on the actor, a police official said Wednesday.

Investigators “for the most part” can confirm the route Smollett took early Tuesday when he says he was attacked by two masked men along a street in the Streeterville neighborhood, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. However, there are gaps and none of the footage police have reviewed shows an attack, he said.

Guglielmi said detectives who are investigating the allegations as a possible hate crime, have looked at hundreds of hours of surveillance video from businesses and hotels in the heavily monitored area. But he said they still need to collect and view more. He said they are expanding the search to include footage from public buses and buildings beyond the crime scene’s immediate vicinity in the hopes of spotting the men who match Mollett’s description of the suspects.

“We haven’t seen anybody, at this point, matching the description he gave, nobody looks menacing and we didn’t find a container anywhere,” Guglielmi said, referring to a container for the liquid that was thrown at the actor.


https://www.apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a

That's an upscale area with a lot of businesses and shops, so there's a lot of cameras. In addition, there's a number of bars and reports are there should have been significant pedestrian traffic.

So you are saying he pulled a Morton Downey Jr?

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They have persons of interest that they found on video.
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quote:
Originally posted by sam the lion from WA:
quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
No leads yet.

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Detectives have reviewed surveillance footage of “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett walking to a downtown Chicago apartment after an early-morning visit to a Subway restaurant, but none of it showed an attack on the actor, a police official said Wednesday.

Investigators “for the most part” can confirm the route Smollett took early Tuesday when he says he was attacked by two masked men along a street in the Streeterville neighborhood, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. However, there are gaps and none of the footage police have reviewed shows an attack, he said.

Guglielmi said detectives who are investigating the allegations as a possible hate crime, have looked at hundreds of hours of surveillance video from businesses and hotels in the heavily monitored area. But he said they still need to collect and view more. He said they are expanding the search to include footage from public buses and buildings beyond the crime scene’s immediate vicinity in the hopes of spotting the men who match Mollett’s description of the suspects.

“We haven’t seen anybody, at this point, matching the description he gave, nobody looks menacing and we didn’t find a container anywhere,” Guglielmi said, referring to a container for the liquid that was thrown at the actor.


https://www.apnews.com/499db3d5b9e84053aff9f391fe7f514a

That's an upscale area with a lot of businesses and shops, so there's a lot of cameras. In addition, there's a number of bars and reports are there should have been significant pedestrian traffic.

So you are saying he pulled a Morton Downey Jr?
And sent multiple letters to the Fox lot threatening himself?
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No, I'm saying there's a lot of video cameras in that area and even at 2 a.m. a pretty good amount of traffic, so lot of potential evidence for police to collect and go through, but local media report they have 12 detectives working the case, so it's clearly a big priority.

Here's the latest from TMZ:

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According to local reporter, Rob Elgas, Smollett was seen on surveillance camera walking on the opposite side of the street at the two persons of interest. Elgas claims both Smollett and the unidentified people then walk off camera (on different cameras). Smollett is unaccounted for on camera for about 60 seconds. He then reappears on surveillance entering a condo building with what appears to be street salt on his sweater and the rope around his neck. Jussie arrives at a friend's place where police arrive to take a report.

We've confirmed with law enforcement sources that Smollett refused to turn his cell phone over to authorities after telling them he was on the phone with his manager during the incident.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/30/jussie-smollett-attack-surveillance-video-persons-of-interest/

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quote:
Originally posted by oblongo:
No, I'm saying there's a lot of video cameras in that area and even at 2 a.m. a pretty good amount of traffic, so lot of potential evidence for police to collect and go through, but local media report they have 12 detectives working the case, so it's clearly a big priority.

Here's the latest from TMZ:

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According to local reporter, Rob Elgas, Smollett was seen on surveillance camera walking on the opposite side of the street at the two persons of interest. Elgas claims both Smollett and the unidentified people then walk off camera (on different cameras). Smollett is unaccounted for on camera for about 60 seconds. He then reappears on surveillance entering a condo building with what appears to be street salt on his sweater and the rope around his neck. Jussie arrives at a friend's place where police arrive to take a report.

We've confirmed with law enforcement sources that Smollett refused to turn his cell phone over to authorities after telling them he was on the phone with his manager during the incident.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/30/jussie-smollett-attack-surveillance-video-persons-of-interest/
Love how "law enforcement sources" felt it necessary to publicize a citizen/crime victim declining to hand over his cell phone.

[Roll Eyes]

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TMZ is not always truthful in their reporting. They tend to just delete the articles instead of issuing retractions.
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Nothing proven yet, but . . .

" . . .Investigators have video of Smollett entering the hotel after the alleged attack with what appears to be a noose around his neck . . .
Police are in possession of the rope and the sweater Smollett was wearing on the night of the attack and are testing the substance [he says his attackers poured on him] . . . On Wednesday, police released photos of two individuals who are now wanted for questioning in connection with the case. . ."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack-letter-phone-call/index.html

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His neighbor apparently saw one of them with a rope.
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quote:
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His neighbor apparently saw one of them with a rope.

And she was able to give a very detailed description of them, too, right down to the type and color of socks one of them was wearing. That will be helpful to police.
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Smollett turned over some of his phone records but cops say what he gave them is useless.

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Chicago police confirmed that representatives for “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett had turned over phone records nearly two weeks after he reported being assaulted by two strangers near his Streeterville apartment.

But a spokesman for police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said that the records “are not sufficient and do not meet the burden of a criminal investigation,” and that police may require more assistance from the actor.

Police described Smollett’s phone records as a heavily redacted document file and his manager’s records as a screenshot of phone calls that provide limited information to investigators.

Chief police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said police were “appreciative” of Smollett’s cooperation in providing the records but said detectives will likely need additional data from Smollett to crack the case.


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https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/1096075938083725314

Two "persons of interest" identified.

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sure hope this isnt fabricated in any way.. they are going nuts on Right wing radio saying there is no proof..

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They'd do that if there was video.

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quote:
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They'd do that if there was video.

true dat... it would be doctored

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45 minutes ago it was reported the police called this a hoax. 30 minutes ago they issued a statement saying that report was not true.

I deleted it because it was not true. The latest information was posted below.

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Did he really expect anyone would believe a couple of white supremacist Empire fans were hanging around one of Chicago's nicest neighborhoods at 2 a.m. in 15 degree weather during a polar vortex with a noose and bleach just hoping he'd show up?
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https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/ny-ent-jussie-smollett-empire-attack-20190214-story.html

The police are denying that report.

" Chicago police denied Thursday that they had questioned Jussie Smollett about whether the “Empire” star staged the attack on him last month..

Anthony Guglielmi, the chief communications officer for the Chicago Police Department, said there was “no evidence to support” the report that detectives were investigating Smollett’s allegations as a hoax."

Someone hoaxed the news. I am deleting my previous post as it is incorrect.

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quote:
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Did he really expect anyone would believe a couple of white supremacist Empire fans were hanging around one of Chicago's nicest neighborhoods at 2 a.m. in 15 degree weather during a polar vortex with a noose and bleach just hoping he'd show up?

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I haven't followed this very closely, but didn't Smollett report to be on the phone with someone when the incident happened?

Has anyone talked to that person or got their phone records?

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Yes.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/police-push-back-against-claim-that-attack-on-empire-star-was-a-hoax-11550255540

The two were arrested. They are not charged yet, but have been arrested.

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Yep..MAGA white supremacists....

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Got a citation there, Kilroy, or are you just blowing smoke?

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quote:
https://www.apnews.com/3fa6965cdc104028a4c8879ca49689a6

CHICAGO (AP) — The investigation into black actor Jussie Smollett’s account of being beaten in a racist, anti-gay attack took another turn Friday when Chicago police said two men arrested in the case are also black.

So, if it's them, what racial slurs? They called him white? Great. Like there's not enough real sh*t.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said the two were arrested for “probable cause” of committing assault and battery on the ”‘Empire’ cast member” but had not been charged as of Friday afternoon. Smollett, who is gay, has said two masked men beat him after shouting racial and homophobic slurs and tied a rope around his neck early on Jan. 29.

The two suspects — whom police previously had identified only as Nigerian brothers — were picked up at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport on Wednesday and taken into custody after returning from Nigeria after police learned that at least one of the men worked on “Empire,” according to Guglielmi. He said he did not know what the man’s job was on the television drama.


This now sounds like a case of who did or didn't suck what. Or at least that's how it's being set up.



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Hey Kilroy... read the original post. it is even in bold for you. AS BEEN REPORTED that they were white. Lots has been shown since then. But cool you jump in and look foolish.
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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/15/suspects-arrested-in-jussie-smollett-case/
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first time I heard of a black man using the n-bomb and homophobic slurs..

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