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jimmy the riddle
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Linda Mcmahon

Kerry, David, Kevin, Mike Von Erich

Hacksaw Jim Duggan

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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The VEs except Mike all heeled in Florida. So did Duggan.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask from FL:
The VEs except Mike all heeled in Florida. So did Duggan.

Oh, I wasn't sure

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quote:
Originally posted by jimmy the riddle:
Linda Mcmahon

Kerry, David, Kevin, Mike Von Erich

Hacksaw Jim Duggan

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

Linda turned heel on Foley or JR (I forget) a couple of years back. Even though already discounted by CM for other work, Duggan heeled in WCW, Mid-South and several other places.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask I:
Rufus did a heel turn in... I think it was JCP.

Nope. He was always a baby there.

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I remember when David came back to Dallas after his stint in Tampa. The announcers never said he was a heel but they did say he did't get along with the people in Florida because the Cowboys had beaten the Bucs in the playoffs that year.
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quote:
Originally posted by Madison Carter from TX:
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy the riddle:
Linda Mcmahon

Kerry, David, Kevin, Mike Von Erich

Hacksaw Jim Duggan

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

Linda turned heel on Foley or JR (I forget) a couple of years back. Even though already discounted by CM for other work, Duggan heeled in WCW, Mid-South and several other places.
I'm pretty sure Kerry was a heel in Florida when he did some tag-teaming with his brother in some tournament.

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3/16/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
Sweet Brown Sugar & Butch Reed beat Ric Flair & Terry Funk
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich drew Jack Brisco & Jerry Brisco
Florida Champion JJ Dillon beat Bill Snyder
Martial Arts Legal
Kendo Nagasaki beat Brian Blair
Ciclon Negro & Avalanche Tyler beat Mr Wrestling II & El Gran Apollo
Derek Draper beat Terry Allen

5/9/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
NWA Champion Ric Flair beat Dusty Rhodes dq
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham & Butch Reed beat Jim Garvin & David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
No referee
Dory Funk Jr drew Brian Blair
Hiro Matsuda beat El Gran Apollo
Mr Wrestling II beat Derek Draper

5/9/82 Fort Myers, FL
NWA Champion Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes
Dory Funk Jr vs Wahoo McDaniel
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich vs Butch Reed & Sweet Brown Sugar
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
plus 3 more matches

5/11/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
NWA Champion Ric Flair drew Butch Reed 60:00
Dusty Rhodes & Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki & Dory Funk Jr dq
Derek Draper beat Wahoo McDaniel
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Brian Blair beat Jim Garvin dq
Mr. Wrestling II drew Hiro Matsuda 10:00
Terry Allen beat Reggie Parks

5/27/82 Miami Beach, FL
Dusty Rhodes beat Jim Garvin
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
Sweet Brown Sugar ddq David Von Erich
Butch Reed beat JJ Dillon
Brian Blair beat Kerry Von Erich dq
Mr. Wrestling II beat Frank Monte

5/30/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
Texas Death Match
Butch Reed beat Dory Funk Jr
Barry Windham & Brian Blair beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki dq
Sweet Brown Sugar beat JJ Dillon
Terry Taylor beat Terry Allen
Randy Rose & Derek Draper beat El Gran Apollo & Vinnie Valentino

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quote:
Originally posted by Crimson Mask I:
quote:
Originally posted by cattano:
Probably a heel sometime in his career, but I don't remember Junk Yard Dog as a heel.

Pretty sure he heeled early on under his real name and I could swear I remember him coming into Florida as a heel for a trip around the horn vs. Dusty.
I realize this is from a long way back, but since I didn't see a response: Big Daddy Ritter heeled in Stampede with JR Foley as his manager.

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Matt Farmer from WA
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quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
3/16/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
Sweet Brown Sugar & Butch Reed beat Ric Flair & Terry Funk
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich drew Jack Brisco & Jerry Brisco
Florida Champion JJ Dillon beat Bill Snyder
Martial Arts Legal
Kendo Nagasaki beat Brian Blair
Ciclon Negro & Avalanche Tyler beat Mr Wrestling II & El Gran Apollo
Derek Draper beat Terry Allen

5/9/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
NWA Champion Ric Flair beat Dusty Rhodes dq
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham & Butch Reed beat Jim Garvin & David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
No referee
Dory Funk Jr drew Brian Blair
Hiro Matsuda beat El Gran Apollo
Mr Wrestling II beat Derek Draper

5/9/82 Fort Myers, FL
NWA Champion Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes
Dory Funk Jr vs Wahoo McDaniel
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich vs Butch Reed & Sweet Brown Sugar
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
plus 3 more matches

5/11/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
NWA Champion Ric Flair drew Butch Reed 60:00
Dusty Rhodes & Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki & Dory Funk Jr dq
Derek Draper beat Wahoo McDaniel
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Brian Blair beat Jim Garvin dq
Mr. Wrestling II drew Hiro Matsuda 10:00
Terry Allen beat Reggie Parks

5/27/82 Miami Beach, FL
Dusty Rhodes beat Jim Garvin
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
Sweet Brown Sugar ddq David Von Erich
Butch Reed beat JJ Dillon
Brian Blair beat Kerry Von Erich dq
Mr. Wrestling II beat Frank Monte

5/30/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
Texas Death Match
Butch Reed beat Dory Funk Jr
Barry Windham & Brian Blair beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki dq
Sweet Brown Sugar beat JJ Dillon
Terry Taylor beat Terry Allen
Randy Rose & Derek Draper beat El Gran Apollo & Vinnie Valentino

I had always heard (no proof) that the Von Erich's would heel in Amarillo when working the Funks? I believe Dory told a story about working Kevin and David there before.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Farmer from WA:
quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
3/16/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
Sweet Brown Sugar & Butch Reed beat Ric Flair & Terry Funk
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich drew Jack Brisco & Jerry Brisco
Florida Champion JJ Dillon beat Bill Snyder
Martial Arts Legal
Kendo Nagasaki beat Brian Blair
Ciclon Negro & Avalanche Tyler beat Mr Wrestling II & El Gran Apollo
Derek Draper beat Terry Allen

5/9/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
NWA Champion Ric Flair beat Dusty Rhodes dq
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham & Butch Reed beat Jim Garvin & David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
No referee
Dory Funk Jr drew Brian Blair
Hiro Matsuda beat El Gran Apollo
Mr Wrestling II beat Derek Draper

5/9/82 Fort Myers, FL
NWA Champion Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes
Dory Funk Jr vs Wahoo McDaniel
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich vs Butch Reed & Sweet Brown Sugar
Kendo Nagasaki vs Mike Graham
plus 3 more matches

5/11/82 Tampa, FL @ Fort Homer Hesterly Armory
NWA Champion Ric Flair drew Butch Reed 60:00
Dusty Rhodes & Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki & Dory Funk Jr dq
Derek Draper beat Wahoo McDaniel
Sweet Brown Sugar & Barry Windham beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Brian Blair beat Jim Garvin dq
Mr. Wrestling II drew Hiro Matsuda 10:00
Terry Allen beat Reggie Parks

5/27/82 Miami Beach, FL
Dusty Rhodes beat Jim Garvin
Mike Graham beat Dory Funk Jr
Sweet Brown Sugar ddq David Von Erich
Butch Reed beat JJ Dillon
Brian Blair beat Kerry Von Erich dq
Mr. Wrestling II beat Frank Monte

5/30/82 Orlando, FL @ Eddie Graham Sports Stadium
Texas Death Match
Butch Reed beat Dory Funk Jr
Barry Windham & Brian Blair beat David Von Erich & Kerry Von Erich
Mike Graham beat Kendo Nagasaki dq
Sweet Brown Sugar beat JJ Dillon
Terry Taylor beat Terry Allen
Randy Rose & Derek Draper beat El Gran Apollo & Vinnie Valentino

I had always heard (no proof) that the Von Erich's would heel in Amarillo when working the Funks? I believe Dory told a story about working Kevin and David there before.
Late 1978, early 1979.

11/29/78 Abilene, TX @ Taylor County Coliseum
Ted DiBiase vs Adrian Adonis
American Tag Team Champions David Von Erich & Kevin Von Erich vs Dick Murdoch & Blackjack Mulligan
Mr Pogo & Mr Sato vs Roger Kirby & Doug Somers

12/6/78 Abilene, TX @ Taylor County Coliseum
Ted DiBiase vs Kevin Von Erich
Dick Murdoch vs David Von Erich
Mr Pogo & Mr Sato vs Ricky Romero & Bob Brown
Ratamyus vs Doug Somers

12/7/78 Amarillo, TX @ Sports Arena
American Tag Team Champions David Von Erich & Kevin Von Erich vs Ted DiBiase & Dick Murdoch
Fritz Von Erich vs Bob Brown
$5,000 Golden Challenge
Adrian Adonis vs Larry Lane 10:00
Rip Hawk & Doug Somers vs Mr Pogo & Mr Sato
Ron Garfield vs Ratamyus
Ricky Romero vs Alex Perez

12/14/78 Amarillo, TX @ Sports Arena
NWA Champion Harley Race vs Dick Murdoch
International Champion Ted DiBiase vs Kevin Von Erich
Mixed tag bout girls & midgets
Plus 4 other matches

1/4/79 Amarillo
International Champion Ted Dibiase beat Kevin Von Erich
Mr. Sato & Mr. Pogo beat Dory Funk Jr & Larry Lane
James J Dillon beat Ricky Romero
Ray Stevens beat Ratamyus dq
Ricky Romero beat Rip Hawk
Alex Perez beat The Lawman

1/11/79 Amarillo
James J. Dillon beat International Champ Ted DiBiase to win title
Blackjack Mulligan & Merced Solis beat David Von Erich & Kevin Von Erich COR
Larry Lane drew Mr. Sato
Mr. Pogo beat Ricky Romero
Dennis Stamp beat Ratamyus
Haystack Calhoun beat Randy Morse

1/18/79 Amarillo, TX
International Champion James J Dillon vs Dick Murdoch
Blackjack Mulligan & Ted Dibiase beat Mr. Sato & Mr. Pogo
Dory Funk Jr & Terry Funk beat Kevin Von Erich & David Von Erich
Merced Solis beat Ratamyus
Ricky Romero beat Alex Perez
Dennis Stamp drew Larry Lane

1/25/79 Amarillo, TX
Dick Murdoch beat JJ Dillon
Blackjack Mulligan & Ted Dibiase beat David Von Erich & Kevin Von Erich COR
Mr. Sato & Mr. Pogo beat Merced Solis & Larry Lane
Bob Sweetan drew Ricky Romero
Ratamyus drew Dennis Stamp

2/2/79 Lubbock
Blackjack Mulligan & Merced Solis beat Mr Pogo & Akio Sato
Haystack Calhoun & Larry Lane beat Dennis Stamp & Stan Lane
Ted Dibiase beat Kevin Von Erich
Alex Perez & Ratamyus beat ?

2/9/79 Lubbock
Blackjack Mulligan & Ted DiBiase beat David Von Erich & Kerry von Erich
Dory Funk Jr & Merced Solis drew Mr Pogo & Akio Sato
Butch Cassidy over Little Tokyo
Ratamyus beat Manny Fernandez
Alex Perez beat Stan Lane
Grizzly Boone beat Ron Garfield

2/15/79 Amarillo, TX
Western States tag title match
Mr Pogo & Akio Sato vs Ted DiBiase & Merced Solis
Dick Murdoch & Dory Funk Jr vs Kevin Von Erich & David Von Erich
Manny Fernandez vs Grizzly Boone
Tank Patton vs Dennis Stamp
Larry Lane & Butch Cassidy vs Stan Lane & Little Tokyo

2/15/79 Amarillo, TX
Western States tag title match
Mr Pogo & Akio Sato vs Ted DiBiase & Merced Solis
Dick Murdoch & Dory Funk Jr vs Kevin Von Erich & David Von Erich
Manny Fernandez vs Grizzly Boone
Tank Patton vs Dennis Stamp
Larry Lane & Butch Cassidy vs Stan Lane & Little Tokyo

2/22/79 Amarillo
Terry Funk & Merced Solis vs Mr Pogo & Akio Sato
Blackjack Mulligan vs Kevin Von Erich
Larry Lane vs David Von Erich
Grizzly Boone vs Bill Ash
Dennis Stamp & Stan Lane vs Tank Patton & Ratamyus

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Was Pepper Gomez ever heel? or Gino Brito?
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Jim Brunzell AND Brian Blair. I don't recall either of them ever working heel.

There was one match in which two "Killer Bees", wearing their masks, aided Ted DiBiase during a lumberjack match against Hulk Hogan, but it was never made clear if they were the real Bees or paid phonies.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbnpbl_hulk-hogan-vs-ted-dibiase-lumberjac_sport

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Rick Steamboat
Tom Zenk
Giant Baba
Antonio Inoki
El Canek
Ultimate Warrior
Marty Jannetty
Joe Stecher
George Hackensmidt
Jim Londos
Jim Powers
Del Wilkes
Hillbilly Jim
Keith Hart

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Haystacks Calhoun

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Sam Steamboat

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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
Haystacks Calhoun

Calhoun heeled in Amarillo during late 1979. JJ Dillon was his manager.

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Larry,

Check the late 1979 clippings on Ron Witmer's site.

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quote:
Originally posted by nbvwes:

Giant Baba

Baba heeled during late 1961 and 1962 for CWC.

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Ultimate Warrior heeled w/ Sting as part of the Blade Runners in Mid South, according to Wiki

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quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
Larry,

Check the late 1979 clippings on Ron Witmer's site.

I can believe everything about the result of the match between SBG and Haystacks....except where it says that Graham had put a bearhug on 'Stacks!!!! Really? Maybe on one of his thighs!!!!

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Again I think people are posting without reading the thread because I know we have retreads on this list.

quote:
Originally posted by nbvwes:
Giant Baba
Antonio Inoki


Inoki working under his real name of Kanji Inoki heeled on his initial tour in the US, just like Baba (and all the other Japanese) did.

Jim Londos

Go on youtube and watch his match with Abe Coleman and get back to us. Londos like ALL CHAMPIONS back then was a tweener. Thesz didn't invent it.



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quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
Larry,

Check the late 1979 clippings on Ron Witmer's site.

I can believe everything about the result of the match between SBG and Haystacks....except where it says that Graham had put a bearhug on 'Stacks!!!! Really? Maybe on one of his thighs!!!!
By that time Stacks was way down in size compared to the '50s and early '60s when he was running around at a legit 585. Bruno couldn't get his arms around him so he put them around a leg and lifted him. I don't think he weighed more than 350 the late '70s, and besides Billy is lot taller than Bruno with much longer arms. The lighter Stacks got, the heavier he was billed.

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quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
quote:
Originally posted by nbvwes:

Giant Baba

Baba heeled during late 1961 and 1962 for CWC.
And they booked him all over the country and in Canada, so there weren't too many places that didn't see him as a heel. And he was a heel longer than that, at least into '63 because he had title shots at both Thesz and Bruno as a heel.

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Skip Young/Sweet Brown Sugar

Keith Larson/Wally "Rocky" Kernodle

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i found some record book listings showing Giant Baba vs Buddy Rogers for the NWA title, anybody got a link to that?
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There were about 10 matches in 1962. Some were in Ohio where Rogers was a babyface. The others were heel vs. heel.

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Not sure the Bruno Sammartino asterisk should only apply to his Japan matches.. He tagged with Antonino Rocca and then turned against him and faced Rocca at MSG in his first MSG main event. Even if it was the same thing as Bruno vs Pedro, there's no way Rocca was heel in that match...


Also, if the case is gonna be made for Jim Londos, Thesz, Lewis, etc playing tweeners at times, I'm sure Verne Gagne would have to qualify, especially in his younger days...

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Ilio Di Paulo. Billy "Red" Lions.
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I find it hard to believe that Arnold Skaaland ever worked as a heel (unless it was under his original ring name of Bobby Weaver when he started out in the game).

However, this is wrestling and anything is possible! [Eek!]

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