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Ken Viewer
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Although Page 31 of this endless series is not yet full, since we're having a French Angel/sartorial-splendor/Ricky Starr reunion there, I'll start a new thread here, and go back to fill Page 31 if the chat going on there fades away.

Here's a rare photo of Ad Santel in 1923, demonstrating his toe hold. Along with the one below, there should be five other photos of Santel, demonstrating the "seven deadliest holds" in wrestling, but they are not now available. Maybe I can find him demonstrating seven deadly sins.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Viewer:
Although Page 31 of this endless series is not yet full, since we're having a French Angel/sartorial-splendor/Ricky Starr reunion there, I'll start a new thread here, and go back to fill Page 31 if the chat going on there fades away.

Here's a rare photo of Ad Santel in 1923, demonstrating his toe hold. There should be six other photos of Santel, demonstrating "seven deadliest holds" but they are not now available. Maybe I can find him demonstrating seven deadly sins.


Ken

Sorry, but this free preview is of a Corbis photo, and Corbis no longer supports embedding. It's still damn nice of them to let us have free previews. Click here.

I wanna see him do sloth!

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quote:
Originally posted by doc:
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Originally posted by Ken Viewer:
Although Page 31 of this endless series is not yet full, since we're having a French Angel/sartorial-splendor/Ricky Starr reunion there, I'll start a new thread here, and go back to fill Page 31 if the chat going on there fades away.

Here's a rare photo of Ad Santel in 1923, demonstrating his toe hold. There should be six other photos of Santel, demonstrating "seven deadliest holds" but they are not now available. Maybe I can find him demonstrating seven deadly sins.


Ken


I wanna see him do sloth!
Here ya go:

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"Sloth" as seen in "The Goonies."

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Taking a look at what's on the front page of this forum, most of what I see is me over-posting. So, I'll limit the amount of posts I create for a while, until there's more of a balance of threads started by others.

To the many "visitors" to this forum, all you have to do is a quick FREE registration and you can post here. In the four-or-so years I've been a member of the Wrestling Classics boards, I've never received even one WCMB commercial solicitation or piece of spam.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Viewer:
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Originally posted by doc:
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Originally posted by Ken Viewer:
Although Page 31 of this endless series is not yet full, since we're having a French Angel/sartorial-splendor/Ricky Starr reunion there, I'll start a new thread here, and go back to fill Page 31 if the chat going on there fades away.

Here's a rare photo of Ad Santel in 1923, demonstrating his toe hold. There should be six other photos of Santel, demonstrating "seven deadliest holds" but they are not now available. Maybe I can find him demonstrating seven deadly sins.


Ken


I wanna see him do sloth!
Here ya go:

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"Sloth" as seen in "The Goonies."

They woulda made a lovely couple. [Big Grin]

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Ad Santel applying his kidney-crushing, ribs-breaking, backbreaker half-nelson/crotch hold, which is listed as one of wrestling's seven "deadliest holds."

(Forgot I already posted this about a year ago, but there was no explanatory caption at that time. Makes more sense with the original captions restored.)

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Jimmy Cagney posed as wrestling an unidentified man. Publicity photo, but for what? Was Cagney a wrestler in school, did he enjoy training in wrestling, or was he planning to make a wrestling movie? Date is given as 1930s.

Click here and ye shall see.

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Little quick net research reveals Cagney was a wrestler of some description as a young man. Photo might be older than attributed.

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Also a practitioner of Judo.

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Ellen De Generes booking photo.

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Joe Malcewicz as it is spelled here, lower right.
Also Milo Steinborn, Karl Sarpolis and Chief Little Wolf. Don't know how long this link will last.

All exhibit cards, which is what is shown here and below, courtesy of the collection of "Wrestling Card King," who I believe is Rob England.

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Everett Marshall, as it is spelled here, Ed "Strangler" Lewis, and Ray Steele.

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Will someone please drive me over to the warehouse where I store my pennies? New York City is snow-covered tonight.

Exhibit cards were sold for one-cent each, as shown here, and this image includes cards for Danno O'Mahoney and Ed Don George.

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Earl Caddock photo; no date:

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George Calza of Italy. Newsreel footage of him exists. He also wrestled in the U.S.

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Nice shots of Wild Bill Longson and Bobby Managoff (junior). Courtesy of the Billco collection.

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This photograph is from the Los Angeles Times. The bear will have to be identified by some of the animals on other wrestling sites. Question is, is that creature's opponent The Destroyer, and was this match part of the pre, mid or post-game show at a Lakers' game? Not a quiz; I wasn't going to spend much time tracking down the date and situation.

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Certainly is Beyer and I think the match is on youtube and the bear is Victor.

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Or try this one:



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Crimson Mask,

Thanks for the two matches. In the one that's currently working (the second of the two), Beyer said he was WWA champion at the time. Did any other world's heavyweight championship claimants wrestle bears while they held their titles, at least after World War II?

I can't envision Frank Sexton, Edouard Carpentier, Buddy Rogers or any of the East Coast champs wrestling bears, but perhaps that's because the bears were only allowed to sit in the upstairs seats with the drunks and the rest of us crummy characters.

Ken

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They're the same match, or should be. I can't get the first one to work either. I can't imagine the NWA champion rassling a bear, no, and neither did the WWWF or AWA that I know of.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ken Viewer:
This photograph is from the Los Angeles Times. The bear will have to be identified by some of the animals on other wrestling sites. Question is, is that creature's opponent The Destroyer, and was this match part of the pre, mid or post-game show at a Lakers' game? Not a quiz; I wasn't going to spend much time tracking down the date and situation.

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More than likely one of these cards.

February 17, 1965 - Los Angeles, CA - Olympic Auditorium
Television Tapings:
Victor the Bear W/DQ Destroyer
Paul Diamond beat Ken Yates
Billy Red Lyons beat Bill Cody
Shohei Baba beat Hangman
Pedro Morales beat Don Savage
Kurt & Karl Von Stroheim beat Mr. Moto & Larry Evans

March 11, 1965 - Bakersfield, CA - Strelich Stadium
Joe Carollo beat Bud Cody 2-1
Paul Diamond DCOR Horst Wessel 1-1
Pedro Morales & Luis Hernandez beat Kurt & Karl Von Stroheim
Victor the Bear beat Destroyer

April 13, 1965 - Long Beach, CA - Municipal Auditorium
Luis Hernandez drew Billy Red Lyons
Chief White Eagle over Matt Murphy
Karl von Stroheim over El Magnifico
Pedro Morales beat Kurt von Stroheim
Victor the Bear over Destroyer

Beyer had nothing to be ashamed of. The Bear beat Mae Young later that year so you know it was tough.

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Is The Crusher wearing a wig here or did he forget to tip his barber previously? No date.

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quote:
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Can anyone identify these two wrestlers who battled in Seattle, Washington for some sort of title in 1934? The match was important enough to make the newsreels. RTT May 25, 1934. This is a still-photo off of the reel and can't be made larger without major loss of whatever clarity it has.

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Believe that is from the old Seattle Civic Auditorium. I think the guy facing the camera is possibly Ted Cox. On the 24th in Seattle he wrestled a Jack League. But that looks like Ted Cox.
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Matt,

In crazy-Ken code, RTT means "Released To Theaters."

So the match had to take place three or more days earlier than May 24th, unless the original newsreel-distributor had some reason to pay mucho dinero for a hurry-job from the lab that processed the film, and if the release came out of the Eastern distribution system, airplane-delivery on this Seattle footage.

I suspect, given the problem identifying the wrestlers, this was a fill-in match used because they had nothing better for that twice-a-week endless demand for wrestling films.

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I wrestled Victor a few weeks after the match with with The Destroyer & got a draw.--Yohe
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But you were bigger than Victor
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quote:
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I wrestled Victor a few weeks after the match with with The Destroyer & got a draw.--Yohe

Was that the only time Victor ever bladed?

He really appreciated those 12 salmon you fed him before the match.

Newsreel footage will be posted as soon as it's found.

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quote:
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Matt,

In crazy-Ken code, RTT means "Released To Theaters."

So the match had to take place three or more days earlier than May 24th, unless the original newsreel-distributor had some reason to pay mucho dinero for a hurry-job from the lab that processed the film, and if the release came out of the Eastern distribution system, airplane-delivery on this Seattle footage.

I suspect, given the problem identifying the wrestlers, this was a fill-in match used because they had nothing better for that twice-a-week endless demand for wrestling films.

Ken

Okay...but that still looks like Ted Cox
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Matt posted:

Okay...but that still looks like Ted Cox

I couldn't identify Frank Gotch or Karl Gotch from a wrestling bear, much less Ted Cox.

You're the expert.

Ken

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