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Matt Farmer from WA
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Just for fun here is a list of the top 10 biggest drawing cards per year.

1970
1- 7/14 Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon vs Dick the Bruiser & Crusher- AWA Tag Title Cage Match/ Verne Gagne vs Baron Von Raschke- AWA Title Comisky Park, Chicago IL 21,000 ($148,000 US Gate Record. Verne Gagne)
2- 7/10 Bruno Sammartino vs Crusher Verdu- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,982* (New MSG Record Attendance. Vincent J. McMahon)
3- 6/15 Bruno Sammartino vs Crusher Verdu- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,819* ($85,716 MSG Attendance Record. Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 11/27 Ray Mendoza vs El Solitario- NWA Light Heavyweight Title Change Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,000* (Famous match when fan littered the ring with pesos. Salvador Lutteroth)
5- 8/01 The Mongols (Beepo & Geeto) vs Bruno Sammartino & Victor Rivera- WWWF Tag Titles MSG, New York City NY 17,864 (Vincent J. McMahon
6- 6/11 Pat Patterson vs Ray Stevens- US Title Death Match Haystacks Ref Cow Palace, San Francisco CA 17,600* (SRO listed as 20,500 Turn Away Crowd. Roy Shire)
7- 10/23 Bruno Sammartino vs Beepo Mongol- WWWF Title Texas Death Match MSG, New York City NY 17,491 (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 9/14 Bruno Sammartino vs Beepo Mongol- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 17,232 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 11/15 The Sheik vs Billy Watson- Lord Athol Layton Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 17,700 (Frank Tunney)
10- 12/27 The Sheik vs Lord Athol Layton MLG, Toronto ONT 17,000 (Frank Tunney)

1971
(Adnan Kaisey had matches with Andre the Giant and Bob Roop that drew huge crowds but do not have the date for them. I'm sure both would be number 1 and 2)

1- 8/27 Freddie Blassie vs John Tolos Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles CA 25,847 ($142,158 Record Gate. Mike LeBelle)
2- 10/25 Pedro Morales vs Stan Stasiak- WWF Title Texas Death Match MSG, New York City NY 22,070* ($104,456 Vincent J. McMahon)
3- 7/24 Pedro Morales & Gorilla Monsoon vs Luke Graham & Tarzan Tyler/ Bruno Sammartino vs Blackjack Mulligan MSG, New York City NY 21,912* ($103,458 1st 100k Gate in MSG. Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 2/08 Ivan Koloff vs Pedro Morales- WWWF Title Change/ Bruno Sammartino vs Geeto Mongol MSG, New York City NY 21,812* ($86,885 New MSG Record. Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 3/15 Pedro Morales vs Blackjack Mulligan- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 21,430* ($88,865 Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 1/18 Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff- WWWF Title Change MSG, New York City NY 21,166* ($85,554 New MSG Attendance Record. Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 5/24 Pedro Morales vs Tarzan Tyler- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 21,000* (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 12/06 Pedro Morales vs Freddie Blassie- WWWF Title Roman Gladiator Match MSG, New York City NY 20,102* (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 11/15 Pedro Morales vs Freddie Blasse- WWWF Title vs Pacific Coast Title MSG, New York City NY 20,089* (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 2/21 Tiger Jeet Singh vs The Sheik- US Title MLG, Toronto ONT 19,000* (Thousands Turned Away. Frank Tunney)

1972
1- 6/24 Dory Funk Jr vs Fritz Von Erich- NWA Title Texas Stadium, Irving TX 26,339 ($96,000 Jack Adkisson)
2- 7/17 Johnny Rougeau vs Abdullah the Butcher/ Jacques Rougeau vs The Sheik Jarry Park Stadium, Montreal QUE 26,237 ($101,650 Bob Langevin)
3- 1/28 Jose Azzari vs Gregory Bull- Guatemala Title Estadio Mateo Flores, Guatemala City Guatemala 25,000 (Joseph Azzari)
4- 9/30 Pedro Morales vs Bruno Sammartino- WWWF Title Shea Stadium, Flushing NY 22,508 ($140,923 Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 2/21 Pedro Morales vs Toru Tanaka- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 22,090* (Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 9/02 Pedro Morales vs Ernie Ladd- WWWF Title/ Bruno Sammartino vs George Steele MSG, New York City NY 21,819* (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 8/02 Don Leo Jonathan vs Jean Ferre Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 20,347 (Thousands Turned Away. Bob Langevin)
8- 1/31 Pedro Morales vs Toru Tanaka- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,076* (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 7/01 Pedro Morales vs George Steele- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 19,512* (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 5/22 Pedro Morales vs Pampero Firpo- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 19,367 (Vincent J. McMahon)

1973
(A match between Ali Baba vs Power Mike (Chief Michael Okpala) for the African Title took place at Nakivubo Stadium in Uganda reportedly drew 40,000. There was also two Lou Thesz vs Dara Singh matches that drew big stadium size crowds as well.)

1- 7/14 Killer Kowalski vs Mad Dog Vachon- Grand Prix Title Change Jarry Park Stadium, Montreal QUE 29,127*
2- 6/30 Pedro Morales vs George Steele- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 21,897* (Vincent J. McMahon)
3- 7/23 Pedro Morales vs George Steele- WWWF Title Joe Louis Ref MSG, New York City NY 20,629* (Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 6/04 Pedro Morales vs Don Leo Jonathan- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,146* (Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 2/26 Pedro Morales vs Curtis Iaukea- WWWF Title/ Verne Gagne vs Eddie Graham (sub for Ray Stevens)- AWA Title MSG, New York City NY 22,098* (Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 10/15 Pedro Morales vs Stan Stasiak- WWWF Title Texas Death Match/ Andre the Giant vs Blackjack Lanza MSG, New York City NY 20,102* (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 4/30 Pedro Morales vs Don Leo Jonathan- WWWF Title/ Andre the Giant vs Toru Tanaka MSG, New York City NY 20,092* (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 12/10 Stan Stasiak vs Bruno Sammartino- WWWF Title Change MSG, New York City NY 20,022 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 3/26 Pedro Morales vs Freddie Blassie- WWWF Title/ Andre the Giant vs Buddy Wolfe MSG, New York City NY 19,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 8/27 Pedro Morales vs Stan Stasiak- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 18,666 (Vincent J. McMahon)

1974
1- 8/26 Bruno Sammartino & Jay Strongbow vs Jimmy & Johnny Valient- WWWF Tag Titles MSG, New York City NY 22,000* (Vincent J. McMahon)
2- 10/07 Bruno Sammartino & Jay Strongbow vs Jimmy & Johnny Valient- WWWF Tag Titles MSG, New York City NY 21,063* (Vincent J. McMahon)
3- 12/15 Antonio Inoki vs Andre the Giant Sao Palo Stadium, Sao Palo Brazil 21,000
4- 4/01 Bruno Sammartino vs Nicolai Volkoff- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,500* (Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 1/14 Bruno Sammartino vs Don Leo Jonathan- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,225* (Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 7/24 Bruno Sammartino & Jay Strongbow vs Freddie Blassie & Nicolai Volkoff MSG, New York City NY 20,055* (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 3/04 Bruno Sammartino vs Nicolai Volkoff- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,050* (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 7/22 Bruno Sammartino vs John Tolos- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 18,579 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 2/12 Jacques Rougeau vs Don Leo Jonathan- Grand Prix vs All Star Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 18,184*
10- 9/20 Dr. Wagner vs El Halcon- NWA Light Heavyweight Tour Final & NWA Lightweight Title/ El Cobarde vs Anibal- NWA Middleweight Title Change (41st Anniversary) Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,000* (Chavo Lutteroth)
+ 9/07 Verne Gagne vs Billy Robinson- AWA Title/ The Sheik & Bobby Heenan vs Dick the Bruiser & Bobo Brazil Comisky Park, Chicago IL 18,000 (some estimates as high as 21,000)

1975
(Sheik Wadi Ayoub wrestled Mighty Spartacus for the All Asian Title in Lebanon in front of a reported 20,000 fans)

1- 5/19 Bruno Sammartino vs Waldo Von Erich- WWWF Title MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 24,553* (MSG Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
2- 7/06 Ray Mendoza vs Angel Blanco- Hair vs Hair Match Plaza de Toros, Mexico City Mexico 22,000
3- 10/13 Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff- WWWF Title Lumberjack Match MSG, New York City NY 20,255* (Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 12/15 Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff- WWWF Title Cage Match MSG, New York City NY 20,255* (Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 5/01 Dr. Wagner & El Halcon vs Los Gemelos Diablos- Double Mask vs Mask Mathc/ Fishman vs Alberto Munoz- National Welterweight Title Plaza de Toro, Mexico City Mexico 20,000
6- 5/12 Bruno Sammartino vs George Steele- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 6/16 Bruno Sammartino vs Waldo Von Erich- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 19,000* (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 1/20 Johnny & Jimmy Valient vs Bruno Sammartino & Jay Strongbow- WWWF Tag Titles MSG,New York City NY 19,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 2/17 Bruno Sammartino vs Spiros Arion- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 19,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 3/17 Bruno Sammartino vs Spiros Arion- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 19,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)

1976
1- 6/25 Bruno Sammartino vs Stan Hansen- WWWF Title Shea Stadium, Flushing NY 32,897 (Inoki vs Ali CCTV. Vincent J. McMahon)
2- 2/01 Jose Azzari vs Mil Mascaras- LLL Title Tour Finals Estadio Mateo Flores, Guatemala City Guatemala 32,000* (Joseph Azzari)
3- 9/05 Jose Azzari vs Dr. Wagner (Jose Azzari Retirement) Estadio Mateo Flores, Guatemala City Guatemala 25,000 (Joseph Azzari)
4- 12/12 Antonio Inoki vs Akram Pahalwan Pakistan Stadium, Karachi Pakistan 24,000
5- 5/17 Stan Hansen vs Ivan Putski (sub for Bruno Sammartino) MSG, New York City NY 22,090* (Turn Away Crowd. Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 12/20 Bruno Sammartino vs Stan Stasiak- WWWF Title Sicilian Strecher Match MSG, New York City NY 20,090* (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 1/12 Bruno Sammartino vs Billy Graham- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 22,042* (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 8/07 Bruno Sammartino vs Stan Hansen- WWWF Title Cage Match MSG, New York City NY 22,000* (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 3/29 Bruno Sammartino & Tony Parisi vs Ivan Koloff & Billy Graham MSG, New York City NY 20,900 (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 3/01 Bruno Sammartino vs Ernie Ladd- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,000 (Vincent J. McMahon

1977
1- 8/15 Lou Thesz vs Mil Mascaras- UWA Title Change Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 28,000* (Francisco Flores & Benjamin Mora)
2- 8/01 Billy Graham vs Bruno Sammartino- WWWF Title Gorilla Monsoon Ref MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 26,609* (Duel Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
3- 3/07 Bruno Sammartino vs Ken Patera- WWWF Title Gorilla Monsoon Ref MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 26,492* (Duel Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 10/24 Billy Graham vs Dusty Rhodes- WWWF Title Texas Death Match MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 26,092* (Duel Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 9/26 Billy Graham vs Dusty Rhodes- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 22,102* (3,000 Felt Forum. Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 8/29 Billy Graham vs Ivan Putski- WWWF Title/ Bruno Sammartino vs Ken Patera- Texas Death Match MSG, New York City NY 22,091* (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 5/23 El Solitario vs Tatsumi Fujinami- UWA Light Heavyweight Title Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 21,000 (Francisco Flores & Benjamin Mora)
8- 6/26 Billy Graham vs Bruno Sammartino- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,253* (4,000 at Felt Forum. Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 12/19 Billy Graham vs Mil Mascaras- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 22,085* (Were in Felt Forum too but no numbers. Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 5/16 Billy Graham vs Gorilla Monsoon- WWWF Title/ Bruno Sammartino vs George Steele MSG, New York City NY 20,000* (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 10/30 Mil Mascaras & El Solitario vs Angel Blanco & Rene Guajardo El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos, Naucalpan Mexico 20,000* (Francisco Flores)
10- 11/09 Otto Wanz vs Don Leo Jonathan- Super Heavyweight Title Rustenburg Stadium, Sun City South Africa 20,000 (Bull Hefner)

1978
1- 8/13 Tatsumi Fujinami vs Ray Mendoza- WWF Junior Heavyweight Title/ Villano III & Bobby Lee vs Los Escorpions I & II- Double Mask vs Mask Match Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 28,000* (Francisco Flores)
2- 8/28 El Canek vs Lou Thesz- UWA Title/ Bobby Lee vs El Santo- UWA Junior Light Heavyweight Title Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 27,000* (Francisco Flores)
3- 4/24 Bob Backlund vs Billy Graham- WWWF Title Cage Match MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 26,000* (Near double Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
4- 7/22 Carlos Colon vs Victor Jovica/ Bruno Sammartino vs Gorilla Monsoon WWC North American Title Change Juan Ramon Loubriel Stadium, Bayamon PR 25,000* (Victor Jovica & Carlito Colon & Gino Marella)
5- 9/03 El Santo vs Bobby Lee (Carlos Alvarado Gonzalez)- Mask vs Mask Match Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 22,000 (Francisco Flores)
6- 3/20 Bob Backlund vs Billy Graham- WWWF Title/ Andre the Giant & Dusty Rhodes & Mil Mascaras vs Ken Patera & Toru Tanaka & Mr. Fuji MSG/Felt Forum, New York City NY 24,600* (MSG Sellout. Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 7/22 Ernie Ladd vs Ray Candy- Cage Match/ Paul Orndorff vs Bruiser Brody- North American Title/ Dusty Rhodes vs Billy Graham Superdome, New Orleans LA 23,000 ($142,675 State Record. Leroy McGuirk)
8- 1/23 Billy Graham vs Mil Mascaras- WWWF Title MSG, New York City NY 22,092* (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 2/20 Billy Graham vs Bob Backlund- WWWF Title Change MSG, New York City NY 22,092* (1st MSG card where 14 and under could attend. Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 9/24 El Santo vs Bobby Lee- Mask vs Hair Match/ El Solitario vs Mascara Roja (Indio Jeronimo)- Mask vs Mask Match Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 21,000 (Francisco Flores)

1979
1- 12/19 Tatsumi Fujinami vs Angel Blanco- WWF Junior Heavyweight Title/ El Canek vs Riki Choshu/ Tiger Jeet Singh vs El Solitario (Mexico vs Rest of the World) Palacio de los Deportes, Mexico City Mexico 27,000* (Francisco Flores)
2- 6/16 Zubair Jhara Pahalwan vs Antonio Inoki Ghaddafi Stadium, Karachi Pakistan 25,000
3- 4/22 El Canek vs Antonio Inoki- UWA Title/ Dos Caras vs Astro Rey (Alberto Leonel Hernandez Lopez)- Mask vs Mask Match El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos, Naucalpan Mexico 24,000* (Francisco Flores)
4- 2/19 Bob Backlund vs Greg Valentine- WWWF Title/ Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff MSG, New York City NY 20,255* (Vincent J. McMahon)
5- 9/24 Bob Backlund vs Pat Paterson- WWF Title Cage Match MSG, New York City NY 20,255* (Vincent J. McMahon)
6- 7/02 Bob Backlund vs Pat Patterson- WWF Title MSG, New York City NY 20,055 (Vincent J. McMahon)
7- 1/22 Bob Backlund vs Peter Maivia- WWWF Title Cage Match MSG, New York City NY 20,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
8- 3/26 Bob Backlund vs Greg Valentine- WWWF Title No Time Limit Match/ Bruno Sammartino vs Ivan Koloff MSG, New York City NY 20,000 (Vincent J. McMahon
9- 10/22 Bob Backlund vs Swede Hanson- WWF Title/ Bruno Sammartino vs Greg Valentine MSG, New York City NY 20,000 (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 1/28 Dr. Wagner vs Angel Blanco- Mask vs Hair Match El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos, Naucalpan Mexico 18,000* (Francisco Flores)

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The 12/27/70 MLG card should probably be replaced by the 11/15/70, which was Watson vs The Sheik and Layton as the ref. That one is listed by Gary Will as being 17,000+, whereas the 12/27 is noted as being a 16,000 gate. Those results would bump the 10/18/70 card out of the Top Ten.

At that point in time, I believe the MLG renos were complete, making the formerly 14,000 seat arena a 18,000 (SROs were considered to be 15,000 and 19,000 respectively before and after the renos)


The 02/21/71 MLG card was the first of three Singh/Sheik sell-outs (although I am lead to understand that the third card was actually about 14,000 paid with a huge comp).

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excellent posts
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Travl...I've mistaken the two MLG's cards for 1970. I'm gonna fix it, I started working on this but it was taking longer than I thought and got a bit lazy hahaha. I was expecting to bang this out real quick.

I'll edit it later and add the rest of the decade later today.

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I don't know if it's a mistake or not but the 1970 list shows two cards from MSG within 5 days of each other, unless I am reading it wrong. Interesting list, though.
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impressive number...

7/14 Killer Kowalski vs Mad Dog Vachon- Grand Prix Title Change Jarry Park Stadium, Montreal QUE 29,127*

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BTW, I'm not the president of the Bruno fan club, but with that said...look at that 1970 list and look at who he is drawing monster numbers with...Crusher Verdu? Beepo Mongol? Fine guys and all, but look at the rest of the list. All stacked. I might not like him in the ring, but my goodness the man could draw.

I would love to see the crowd number of Beepo Mongols biggest day without Bruno. Do the same with Verdu? And then subtract the difference. If you did that and came up with an average for say the top 20 fights or 30 or whatever in a guys career then you could truly see what kind of a draw a guy was. And that would be a monumental, five start pain in the ass, but still...

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And by the way, referring to the Don Leo Jonathan match in Montreal. Jean Ferre is Andre?

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5- 2/26 Pedro Morales vs Curtis Iaukea- WWWF Title/ Verne Gagne vs Eddie Graham (sub for Ray Stevens)- AWA Title MSG, New York City NY 22,098* (Vincent J. McMahon)

What's with the Eddie Graham AWA title match? Backstory to this?

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quote:
Originally posted by WickedNick1975:
And by the way, referring to the Don Leo Jonathan match in Montreal. Jean Ferre is Andre?

Yes; Andre went by the "Giant Jean Ferre" monicker up to 1974 (I think). Certianly by '75 he was "Andre The Giant".

That match had huge heat in Montreal; it got major news coverage.

The only think I am not sure of is if that was an IW (Rougeau) card or Grand Prix (Vachon)?

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One thing this shows as well is that there were precious few 17,000+ venues -- MSG, MLG, Jarry Park, Comisky Park, Montreal Forum, Cow Palace, Arena Mexico and LA's Memorial Colesium.

Given the number of promotions in the 70s, that ain't a lot. And two of them weren't regular venues (Jarry Park & Comisky Park).

I need to note that the Montreal Forum was set up for about 19,000 for wrestling matches (SRO for basketball games, the nearest configuration to a wrestling layout, was 18,500); that 20,000 gate for DLJ/Andre was really stuffing the fans in there. I wouldn't be too surprised to know that the fire marshal's office was less than impressed when the numbers came out....

That, and even given the preponderence of cards featuring Bruno, Pedro and The Sheik, it is interesting to see other names show up fairly regularly: Andre, Verne, DLJ, Bruiser.

Geography (and thus venue size) tells, but the right names can also make a difference.


EDIT: I need to note that the Montreal Forum was set up for about 19,000 for wrestling matches (SRO for basketball games, the nearest configuration to a wrestling layout, was 18,500); that 20,000 gate for DLJ/Andre was really stuffing the fans in there. I wouldn't be too surprised to know that the fire marshal's office was less than impressed when the numbers came out....

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Andre vs DLJ was from Grand Prix. Andre was owned (!!) by Grand Prix when he arrived. He still went by the name Jean Ferré in Montreal till 83-84 when he went to work full time for the WWF.
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Matt- great job- I'm curious what the biggest drawing cards would be each year outside of MSG.
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I look at the results from 1971-73 and it's very understandable why Pedro Morales was made champion....man, he was money.

I too would like more info on that Verne Gagne/Eddie Graham AWA title match.


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Graham was subbing for Ray Stevens, an AWA regular. But Ray, one half of the then AWA Tag Team champions with Nick Bockwinkel, was wrestling for Roy Shire during that time period. Ray did not wrestle on February 26, 1973 for Shire though.

2/17/73 San Francisco, CA @ Cow Palace
Great Mephisto beat Pat Patterson 2/3 to win held up US Title
Ray Stevens beat Lars Anderson
Rocky Johnson beat Kinji Shibuya
Pepper Gomez beat Luke Graham
Masked Interns beat Samoans Reno Tuufuli & Tio Taylor
Mighty Igor beat Fritz Von Goering
Red Bastien beat Manny Cruz
Att: 8,642, Gate: $34,643.50

2/20/73 Stockton, CA @ Civic Auditorium
Great Mephisto & Luke Graham beat Pepper Gomez & Ray Stevens when Gomez was counted out of the ring in the 3rd fall
Masked Interns beat The Samoans
Red Bastien beat Terry Garvin
Gate: $1,743

2/23/73 Modesto, CA @ Uptown Arena
Falls Count Anywhere
Great Mephisto & Luke Graham beat Ray Stevens & Pepper Gomez 2/3
Reno Tuufuli vs one of the Masked Interns 2/3 60:00

2/26/73 Richmond, CA @ Auditorium
World Tag Team Champions Pat Patterson & Rocky Johnson beat Luke Graham & Great Mephisto 2/3
Masked Interns beat Pepper Gomez & Reno Tuufuli
Red Bastien beat Fritz Von Goering
Note: No Ray Stevens on this card.

2/27/73 Las Vegas, NV @ Civic Center
Cage Match
Pat Patterson beat US Champion Great Mephisto dq when Mephisto hit the referee
Ray Stevens beat Luke Graham COR
Rocky Johnson beat Lars Anderson
Masked Interns beat The Samoans
Red Bastien beat Fritz Von Goering

3/2/73 Modesto, CA @ Uptown Arena
No Rules Match, Stevens & Gomez wearing boxing head gear
Great Mephisto & Luke Graham vs Ray Stevens & Pepper Gomez 2/3
Masked Interns vs Samoans Reno Tuufuli & Tio Taylor 2/3 60:00
Plus one more bout

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quote:
Originally posted by hot stuff's stooge is back:
I look at the results from 1971-73 and it's very understandable why Pedro Morales was made champion....man, he was money.

From what I've always heard Pedro was huge at MSG but nowhere else in the future WWE Universe.

That, and his MSG numbers weren't better than Bruno's, even after Sammartino got stale aftr a seven year run at the top.

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quote:
Originally posted by clawmaster64:
2/20/73 Stockton, CA @ Civic Auditorium
Great Mephisto & Luke Graham beat Pepper Gomez & Ray Stevens when Gomez was counted out of the ring in the 3rd fall
Masked Interns beat The Samoans
Red Bastien beat Terry Garvin
Gate: $1,743

Even in our wonderfully strange world of professional wrestling, the idea of Gomez and Stevens actually teaming up just boggles the mind.

But then again, Verne and Mad Dog finally did, too, so.....





But it is still really really weirding me out.

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Great Job Matt. Always like seeing these type of threads about wrestling before "it got big"

One minor point, on the DEC. 1973 MSG card where Bruno regained the title. Pedro should at least be given partial credit for drawing that crowd. I believe his match (Larry Hennig?) was the pushed main event until the final week or so. Pedro lost the title to Stasiak in Philadelphia. Bruno's scheduled semi-final match with Stan became a title match. Pedro's scheduled defense vs. Hennig was the main event for most of the build.

I'm not going to argue against Pedro's MSG drawing power, but alot of the listed crowds have Bruno or Andre as added attractions. Being Bob Backlund always seems to get alot of grief for being "protected" with a solid supporting cast during his run, thought it was interesting to point out.

The 1972 Verne title defense has always been a curiousity to me also. MSG cards have always had the special "outside" attraction matches, including NWA title matches, but were never really pushed hard in the build. Curious if this match was, as it was before my time. It seems to always be listed as a semi-main. Stevens had just finished up a series with Morales, so was seen as a contender. Verne was a MSG draw 20 years earlier (as was the eventual sub, Eddie Graham), but I have no way of knowing if that was acknowledged or worked in anyway towards the draw.

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That is an awesome list. Thanks so much for posting it.

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Bert-
Thank you...I will put that change in there. You're correct Pedro was still champ just a week before the card.

One of the Sammartino vs Verdu matches should and will after I edit be 7/10/1970. The Verdu gimmick was perfect for Bruno. The un-movable man who may be even stronger than Bruno.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Farmer from WA:
The Sheik
Stan Stasiak
Gorilla Monsoon
Tiger Jeet Singh
Abdullah the Butcher
George Steele
Nicolai Volkoff
Ivan Putski

Say all ya want about their talent or lack thereof, but they were doing *something* right.

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Regardless of who was or wasn't offically part or not part of what at whatever time, there was ALWAYS a relationship among McMahon, Gagne and Graham. 2/26/73? Right around when they were shooting 'The Wrestler', which all of them were in.

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Added some more.

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Can you post the top NWA Shows of the 1970s?

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quote:
Originally posted by heinoushorseman1986:
Can you post the top NWA Shows of the 1970s?

WWWF was a member of the NWA for much of the 70's.

Updated them...I'm gonna do the 80's here soon!

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I may post "Non New York" Top Ten sometime soon. It would be interesting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Matt Farmer from WA:
I may post "Non New York" Top Ten sometime soon. It would be interesting.

That would be very informative.

As noted, there weren't that many 18-20,000 seat arenas at that time, unlike the 1980s. And in a few that had that capacity -- SF's Cow Palace for example -- we didn't seem to see those sorts of numbers in that time-period.

Seeing where the big non-NYC numbers came from could be a good way of gauging the bubble-and-bust environment of the decade on our prefered game here....

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Thanks for putting this list together, Matt, it is VERY interesting to read. I'd also be interested in a non-NY top 10 list, but that's only because I got to read your list. Well done, sir!
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Thank you guys.

I have a feeling it would be dominated by cards from Mexico. Both Arena Mexico and El Toreo de Cuatro Caminos usually sold out at around 17,000 to 18,000. It wasn't uncommon for them to pack people into the isles (litterally) in Arena Mexico. Even as late as 1990 they had such an overflow crowd that it caused structural damamge to the building. El Toreo had numerous different setups up until 1985 I believe were it could hold 25,000 or more. But most arena set ups held a sellout down to 18,000.

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Here is a top ten list for biggest cards exluding Madison Square Garden.

1970
1- 7/14 Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon vs Dick the Bruiser & Crusher- AWA Tag Title Cage Match/ Verne Gagne vs Baron Von Raschke- AWA Title Comisky Park, Chicago IL 21,000 ($148,000 US Gate Record. Verne Gagne)
2- 11/27 Ray Mendoza vs El Solitario- NWA Light Heavyweight Title Change Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,000* (Famous match when fan littered the ring with pesos. Salvador Lutteroth)
3- 6/11 Pat Patterson vs Ray Stevens- US Title Death Match Haystacks Ref Cow Palace, San Francisco CA 17,600* (SRO listed as 20,500 Turn Away Crowd. Roy Shire)
4- 11/15 The Sheik vs Billy Watson- Lord Athol Layton Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 17,700 (Frank Tunney)
5- 12/27 The Sheik vs Lord Athol Layton MLG, Toronto ONT 17,000 (Frank Tunney)
6- 2/08 The Sheik vs Lord Athol Layton MLG, Toronto ONT 16,300 (Frank Tunney)
7- 2/22 The Sheik vs Lord Athol Layton- Gene Kiniski Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 15,900 (Frank Tunney)
8 1/26 Abdullah the Butcher vs Jacques Rougeau- International Title Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 15,274 (Bob Langevin)
9- 3/30 Abdullah the Butcher vs Johnny Rougeau- International Title Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 15,239 (Bob Langevin)
10- 11/01 The Sheik vs Whipper Billy Watson MLG, Toronto ONT 15,200 (Frank Tunney)

1971
(Adnan Kaisey had matches with Andre the Giant and Bob Roop that drew huge crowds but do not have the date for them. I'm sure both would be number 1 and 2)

1- 8/27 Freddie Blassie vs John Tolos Memorial Coliseum, Los Angeles CA 25,847 ($142,158 Record Gate. Mike LeBelle)
2- 2/21 Tiger Jeet Singh vs The Sheik- US Title MLG, Toronto ONT 19,000* (Thousands Turned Away. Frank Tunney)
3- 4/14 Tiger Jeet Singh vs The Sheik- US Title MLG, Toronto ONT 18,000* (Frank Tunney)
4- 6/06 Dory Funk Jr vs The Sheik- NWA Title Varsity Stadium, Toronto ONT 17,000 (Frank Tunney)
5- 11/29 Abdullah the Butcher vs Carlos Rocha- International Title Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 16,577 (Bob Langevin)
6- 10/17 Tiger Jeet Singh vs The Sheik- US Title MLG, Toronto ONT 16,000 (Frank Tunney)
7- 10/31 The Shiek vs Tiger Jeet Singh- Non Title Indian Strap Match MLG, Toronto ONT 15,700 (Frank Tunney)
8- 11/13 Pedro Morales vs Jimmy Valient- WWWF Title Cage Match Boston Gardens, Boston MA 15,200 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 9/05 The Sheik vs Big John Quinn- Texas Death Match MLG, Toronto ONt 15,000 (Frank Tunney)
10- 9/26 Tiger Jeet Singh vs The Sheik- US Title MLG, Toronto ONT 15,000 (Frank Tunney)
10- 12/26 The Sheik vs Lord Athol Layton MLG, Toronto ONT 15,000 (Frank Tunney)

1972
1- 6/24 Dory Funk Jr vs Fritz Von Erich- NWA Title Texas Stadium, Irving TX 26,339 ($96,000 Jack Adkisson)
2- 7/17 Johnny Rougeau vs Abdullah the Butcher/ Jacques Rougeau vs The Sheik Jarry Park Stadium, Montreal QUE 26,237 ($101,650 Bob Langevin)
3- 1/28 Jose Azzari vs Gregory Bull- Guatemala Title Estadio Mateo Flores, Guatemala City Guatemala 25,000 (Joseph Azzari)
4- 8/02 Don Leo Jonathan vs Jean Ferre Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 20,347 (Thousands Turned Away. Bob Langevin)
5- 12/08 El Solitario vs Angel Blanco (Jose Angel Vargas Sanchez)- Mask vs Mask Match Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,500* (SRO Thousands Turned Away. Salvador Lutteroth)
6- 2/06 The Sheik vs Carlos Rocha MLG, Toronto ONT 18,000* (Frank Tunney)
7- 2/20 The Sheik vs Carlos Rocha MLG, Toronto ONT 18,000* (Frank Tunney)
8- 3/05 The Sheik vs Carlos Rocha- Jack Sharkey Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 18,000* (Frank Tunney)
9- 5/14 Giant Baba & Seiji Sakaguchi vs Gorilla Monsoon & Mighty Brutus (Bugsy McGraw) Nagano Skate Center, Nagano Japan 18,000* (Shohei Baba)
10- 4/07 El Solitario vs David Morgan- Mask vs Hair Match/ Angel Blanco vs Raul Reyes- National Heavyweight Title Change Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 17,800* (Thousands Turned Away. Salvador Lutteroth)
10- 10/20 Alfonso Dantes vs El Solitario- NWA Light Heavyweight Title/ Karloff Lagarde vs Huracan Ramirez- National Middleweight Title (39th Anniversary II) Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 17,800* (Salvador Lutteroth)

1973
(A match between Ali Baba vs Power Mike (Chief Michael Okpala) for the African Title took place at Nakivubo Stadium in Uganda reportedly drew 40,000. There was also two Lou Thesz vs Dara Singh matches that drew big stadium size crowds as well.)
** Also want to point out the Lou Thesz worked a handful of matches in India and drew some huge gates. Reportedly in the 20,000 to 60,000 range. He worked Dara Singh and his brother.**

1- 7/14 Killer Kowalski vs Mad Dog Vachon- Grand Prix Title Change Jarry Park Stadium, Montreal QUE 29,127*
2- 12/30 The Sheik vs Andre the Giant MLG, Toronto ONT 18,000* (SRO Turn Away. Frank Tunney)
3- 6/01 Harley Race (scheduled as Dory Funk Jr. Race beat Funk for NWA Title) vs Mr. Wrestling- NWA Title Omni Coliseum, Atlanta GA 16,500* (1st Omni Sellout.)
4- 3/30 Anibal vs Rene Guajardo- NWA Middleweight Title Change Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 16,000 (Chavo Lutteroth)
5- 3/04 The Sheik vs Jay Strongbow- Indian Survival Match MLG, Toronto ONT 15,000 (Frank Tunney)
6- 3/16 Enrique Vera vs Dr. Wagner- NWA Light Heavyweight Title Change Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 15,000 (Chavo Lutteroth)
7- 4/01 The Sheik vs Jay Strongbow- Haystack Calhoun Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 15,000 (Frank Tunney)
8- 9/15 Pedro Morales vs George Steele- WWWF Title Cage Match Joe Louis Ref Boston Gardens, Boston MA 15,320 (Vincent J. McMahon)
9- 7/21 Pedro Morales vs Don Leo Jonathan- WWWF Title Boston Gardens, Boston MA 14,901 (Vincent J. McMahon)
10- 2/11 Dory Funk Jr vs Johnny Valentine- NWA Title/ The Sheik vs Tony Marino MLG, Toronto ONT 14,000 (Frank Tunney)
10- 3/18 The Sheik vs Jay Strongbow- Indian Death Match MLG, Toronto ONT 14,000 (Frank Tunney)

1974
1- 12/15 Antonio Inoki vs Andre the Giant Sao Palo Stadium, Sao Palo Brazil 21,000
2- 2/12 Jacques Rougeau vs Don Leo Jonathan- Grand Prix vs All Star Montreal Forum, Montreal QUE 18,184*
3- 9/20 Dr. Wagner vs El Halcon- NWA Light Heavyweight Tour Final & NWA Lightweight Title/ El Cobarde vs Anibal- NWA Middleweight Title Change (41st Anniversary) Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,000* (Chavo Lutteroth)
4- 9/07 Verne Gagne vs Billy Robinson- AWA Title/ The Sheik & Bobby Heenan vs Dick the Bruiser & Bobo Brazil Comisky Park, Chicago IL 18,000 (some estimates as high as 22,000)
5- 9/20 El Cobarde vs Anibal- NWA Middleweight Title Change/ Dr. Wagner vs El Halcon- NWA Light Heavyweight Title Tour Finals & NWA Lightweight Title (41st Anniversary) Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 18,000* (Chavo Lutteroth)
6- 8/13 The Sheik vs Dick the Bruiser Olympia Stadium, Detroit MI 17,000
7- 2/10 The Sheik vs Andre the Giant MLG, Toronto ONT 16,000 (Frank Tunney)
8- 9/21 The Sheik w/Eddie Creatchman vs Dick the Bruiser w/Bobby Heenan/ Ox Baker vs Andre the Giant- WWA Title Market Square Arena, Indianapolis IN 15,900 ($65,000)
9- 1/26 Battle Royal: Peter Maivia winner/ Lonnie Mayne vs Peter Maivia Cow Palace, San Francisco CA 15,662* ($54,636 Roy Shire)
10- 2/03 El Solitario vs Angel Blanco- Mask vs Hair Match Plaza de Toros Monumental, Guadalajara Mexico 15,000*
10- 3/19 Antonio Inoki vs Strong Kobayashi- NWF Title/ Seiji Sakaguchi vs Andre the Giant Budokan Hall, Tokyo Japan 15,000*
10- 3/01 Ray Mendoza & Rayo de Jalisco & Steve Wright vs Rene Guajardo & Karloff Lagarde & Alfonso Dantes/ Tiger Colombiano & Adorable Rubi vs Ringo Mendoza & Paco Pardinez- Relvelos Suicida/ Adorable Rubi vs Paco Pardinez- Hair vs Hair Match Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 15,000 (Chavo Lutteroth)
10- 3/17 The Sheik w/Abdullah Farouk vs Jay Strongbow w/Billy Red Lyons- Lord Athol Layton Ref MLG, Toronto ONT 15,000 (Frank Tunney)
10- 4/07 Jack Brisco vs Johnny Valentine- NWA Title Greensboro Coliseum, Greensboro NC 15,000 (Jim Crockett)
10- 4/26 Anibal & Steve Wright vs Rene Guajardo & Tiger Colombiano (Bill Martinez)- Mask/Hair vs Hair/Mask Match Arena Mexico, Mexico City Mexico 15,000 (Chavo Lutteroth)

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Thanks Steve...I'm going to work on the following years tonight.

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8 of the 10 for 1971 are Toronto? I knew the town was hot '69-'72, but that's insane.

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quote:
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8 of the 10 for 1971 are Toronto? I knew the town was hot '69-'72, but that's insane.

Agreed. I was surprised as well.
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Originally posted by WickedNick1975:
And by the way, referring to the Don Leo Jonathan match in Montreal. Jean Ferre is Andre?

Yes; Andre went by the "Giant Jean Ferre" monicker up to 1974 (I think). Certianly by '75 he was "Andre The Giant".

That match had huge heat in Montreal; it got major news coverage.

The only think I am not sure of is if that was an IW (Rougeau) card or Grand Prix (Vachon)?

It was a Grand Prix show.

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Great work. Love the results from those "exotic" places.

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I too thank you Matt for doing this. Great stuff. The Adnan note from 1971 to me is really interesting. His book is a great read and I have no doubt that those shows drew huge. Kinda like the WCW cards in North Korea....dont think people had a choice. IIRC there are some pics in his book that while not shots of the whole crowd, still make it look like lots of people were there.

On a side note, Adnan talks about touring the middle east and claimed drawing huge crowds. Shame theres not much more info on that.

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Great thread, Matt !

Would like to see the 2nd half of the 70's without MSG.

Interesting stuff !!!

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Your welcome guys. This thread was from a few years back, but I will finish up the remainder of the 70's.

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